I read about Skyrim's conditions of blocking somewhere, and they said that you could block with a shield and a two handed weapon, and you couldn't block if you had a spell equipped. But what about if you're dual wielding weapons?

How many of these threads are going to spawn today?

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Dual wield blocking is stated to be preformed via RT and LT on the controller. please use the search function next time for all your information needs....trust me, we've discussed pretty much anything you could think of concerning skyrim.

You can't block with a shield and 2 handed weapon because you can't equip both at the same time. Each hand acts pretty much as an item slot now. Two handed weapons use both hand slots.

as it stands there are now 3 threads on the front page talking essentially about the same thing, please direct your attention to those and lets not start a whole other animal here


http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1178987-can-heal-with-spell-if-you-have-a-two-handed-weapon/

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1178971-two-handed-weapon-and-shield/

Then how do we attack?

This please.

Yep,this a been repeated so many times. We can block whenever /however we want. The only time we can't block is when we have a one-handed weapon in one hand and a spell in the other. Apart from that,whether dual wielding,holding a two-handed weapon,one weapon and a shield,or just a one-handed weapon and the other hand empty. So we can block in all cases accept the spell and weapon combo. And as for two spells ( one in each hand ) we don't know. I would say no personally,because you can have a defensive spell in one and an offensive spell in the other hand. Spells can stop damage too,not just blocking. Personally,i'm delighted about the system,i find it an improvement.

R1(ps3), Right trigger (360).

That's what I thought. Kinda disappointing I can't just attack with one weapon or the other, paralyze dagger on my off hand for a one hit then just use my big sword to finish them so I can save weapon charges.

What? The first thread you linked me is talks about healing while holding a two handed weapon, the second talks about using a shield while you have a two handed weapon out.

Left trigger is left hand, right trigger is right hand. We have dual wielding now, so you can have two one handed weapons at a time. A 2 hander takes up both hands.

Yeah I didn't see how they were related either.

I believe both triggers is a block, right?

Yea, I think it is.

Yeah that's what I thought it might be, but I couldn't find anywhere where it was officially stated so that's why I asked here. I'm getting a lot of heat over asking the "same" question cause there seems to be a lot of misconception over the difference between a two handed weapon and dual wielding.

Three active threads on the combat mechanics is redundant.

You attack after you block.Have you no battle prowless?

Blocking saves you from damage,and you counter attack and deal them damage,simples!

Not if they are entirely separate aspects of the system, don't you think? The other's talked about the mechanics of a two handed weapon. I didn't want to know anything about fighting with a two handed weapon, I was interested in how a dual wielding would effect our ability to block, since I would assume the controls (I'm talking 360 here) would be kind of skewed. Since the right trigger is usually reserved for attacking and the left for blocking, I though that naturally a dual wielding fight system would assign the right trigger to the right hand attack and the left trigger to the left hand attack, similar to the halo dual wielding system. So where did that leave blocking? Now I think it might be a holding down of both triggers, reassured by some of the responses I've gotten, but I still haven't found out anything officially.

True, but theres no saving it now. A mod would sooner lock two of the threads before bothering to try and merge them

I personally think that it will always be Lt for left hand, Rt for right, and both at once to block, unless it is two spells, then they will combine

i'm sure your joking. But i'd like to point out that when he explained how to block it made it seem like you would just press the buttons that were normally attack to block, which confused me because I didnt' read it as RT + LT to block I read it as RT or LT depending on which sword you want to block with. Which I thought was weird, which is why I brought it up.

The triggers corresponding to your left and right hands is official. As for blocking by holding both triggers, it's not official, but it makes perfect sense. I think it will be this way.

Either way we look at it ,it WILL work out fine. It's a better balancing act in my view.

1: PALADIN CLASS: Stunning defence-Average attack.
Attack: Sword only,as a general rule,no destructive magic.Shield possible attack also. Overall: Average attack.
Defence: Strong armour,shield,lots of stamina/endurance,defensive spells. Overall: Stunning defence.

2: ASSASSIN: Good attack-poor defence.
Attack: Ranged ( bows/throwing weapons ) distance from enemy. Close quarters: Fast attacks and good agility. Overall: Good attack
Defence: Poor/average. Speed to dodge,initial range at first,defence because of being out of reach.Close quarters: Poor protection,has speed to dodge etc,but when hit poor defence. Overall: Poor defence.

3: BATTLE-MAGE: Stunning attack-Average defence. ( taken from the perspective of one handed weapon and spell combo,or spells in both hands.
Attack: Ranged,damaging and weakening spells.Close quarters:Sword,mace,axe atc ( one handed ) Average to good attack,touch spells,extreme damage and weakness in most/some cases.
Overall: Weapon and spell attack=Stunning attack.
Defence: Average/good.( depending on armour type ) No blocking,relies on spells and armour for defence. Overall: Average to good defence.


These are rough ideas on balance,and not overpowering. I.E: Battle mage.If he could block aswell as what i've said above,to me thats over-powered,he has enough at is disposal to be powerful.
The classes aren't perfect,thats not the point. The point is to look at from that view and see why the system they are doing makes more sense. The way i've done it may not make much sense to some.Some could maybe do it better.It's a general idea of balance/or strong and weak,or trade-off. If every class/or character was stunning at everything,instead of good or average,it would ruin the game in my eyes. A point also,battle mage types moan that they can't block with a one-handed weapon in one hand,and a spell in the other. What i've shown in the battle-mage class ( though not perfect ) shows how much power they have without blocking,they need a weak point also. I hope you understand where i'm coming from here.

*Edit* I could go into a lot more detail about all of this,but would take too much effort at the moment. If you look/think deeper about it,i believe the new system is better. Where ever there is a strength,there also has to be a weakness,it's balance. Jack of all trades: Not stunning at anything individually,but good across the board. Thus ,he has weakness and strength.The same applies to mages,assassins ,thieves,warriors etc.It makes for more interesting game-play in my view.