Crash to desktop problem : IV

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:49 am

HI, i recently installed oblivion again and decided to install several mods as well and plan on doing more. But the game crashes to the desktop after about 30 or so minutes of playing. I'm sure this question has been asked a thousand times before on here, but i figured these kind of problems are based on the mods one has installed. I'm not very keen on a lot of this stuff either. But all the mods seem to work fine and I do have the Windom Earle's crash prevention install as well. any help would be much appreciated. and let me know if there's any other information i can provide. thanks.

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Masters for: quicksave.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]02  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]03  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp05  Better Cities .esp06  LoadingScreens.esp07  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp08  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp09  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp0A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp0B  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp0C  WindowLightingSystem.esp0D  VA_BetterGold.esp0E  Streamline 2.1.esp0F  Scribe Supplies.esp10  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp11  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp12  ROM Drop Lit Torches.esp13  No psychic guards v1.2.esp14  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]15  Oss133FrameRateOptimizer.esp16  Beautiful People.esp17  KT_CustomRaceFix.esp18  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.0]19  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]1A  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]1B  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]1C  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.0]1D  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]1E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:28 am

Oss133FrameRateOptimizer.esp

This mod is rendered obsolete by Oblivion Stutter Remover.

0A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp0B  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Why exactly are you loading both of these? Either choose one or the other. Loading both at the same time is a waste of time and space.

07  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp08  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Same here, you really need to read some readmes concerning mod installation.

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

I'd suggest using SM Regional Bounty or Reneer's Guard Overhaul, they both de-psyonify the guards and add a lot more nice features to the crime system.

16  Beautiful People.esp

This mod has a terrible tendency to bork up the eye meshes, so I don't recommend using it.

As for Windom Earl's OCPS, it was not designed for playing through crashes. If you do that, you're opening a huge can of worms and brushing arms with damaging your system. It exists so you can figure out what's causing your game to crash, NOT so you can ignore the crash.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:07 am

Looks like you have an old version of streamline, 3.1 is the latest I think. Try to upgrade or remove to see if that is the cause.

Is there something that all the crashes have in common? Location, what you are doing, etc?

A 30 minute crash could be the memory usage limit. What OS are you runing on?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:50 am

Oss133FrameRateOptimizer.esp

This mod is rendered obsolete by Oblivion Stutter Remover.

0A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp0B  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Why exactly are you loading both of these? Either choose one or the other. Loading both at the same time is a waste of time and space.

07  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp08  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Same here, you really need to read some readmes concerning mod installation.

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

I'd suggest using SM Regional Bounty or Reneer's Guard Overhaul, they both de-psyonify the guards and add a lot more nice features to the crime system.

16  Beautiful People.esp

This mod has a terrible tendency to bork up the eye meshes, so I don't recommend using it.

As for Windom Earl's OCPS, it was not designed for playing through crashes. If you do that, you're opening a huge can of worms and brushing arms with damaging your system. It exists so you can figure out what's causing your game to crash, NOT so you can ignore the crash.

thanks, that helps a lot. yeah i think i just overlooked some things for sure. the optimizer thing was annoying to me anyways, haha.

Looks like you have an old version of streamline, 3.1 is the latest I think. Try to upgrade or remove to see if that is the cause.

Is there something that all the crashes have in common? Location, what you are doing, etc?

A 30 minute crash could be the memory usage limit. What OS are you runing on?

it doesnt seem to have anything to with certain locations or anything. it seems to be pretty consistent with about 30 minutes of play time. for example, if i do the prison break at the beginning, it will crash a little bit after i exit the sewers. I will reload the same save, and play for a while and it will do the same thing. I'm using windows 7 x64

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:41 pm

Are you using the 4GB (or LAA) patch? It would help on resource limits. Use enhanced vegatation instead of the max teal one. I never used psychic guards so can't comment on that. BC should be OK. Unload the other mods and see what happens.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:04 pm

I turned off the unnecessary mods, and updated streamline to 3.1. I also installed the 4gb patch. i've played extensively with no crashes,(woo hoo!) except when exiting to my desktop. seems to still crash even though i have fast exit2. i did notice streamline has a fast exit built into it though. thanks man. know i shall proceed with more mod installation

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:21 am

Cool. You should not CTD when exiting with fastexit dll in the OBSE\plugins\ direcotry. never happened to me. In a case like that reinstall fastexit and double check OBSE version in case it has a requirement.

And....add mods slowly playing for a bit before adding more. try to check for what the mod changes or adds to see if it is working properly. Adding a dungeon mod that you do not visit for 20 game hours but does not crash your game after adding does not mean it will not crash it when you visit it

Don't add mods you will not use for some time, don't need the overhead is my advice. :thumbsup:

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:18 am

Yeah, i've gone through this all before a couple of years ago. I even had mods still saved on my comp. but i couldn't use most of them since they were outdated. and now it seems there are way more mods to search through, which means there are a lot of hidden gems out there, too. hehe. but it can be overwhelming to keep track of them all. And your advice definitely helps. thank you.

I still am having a problem with CTD. it won't crash if i exit the game right at the main menu. but if i load a save and exit from that, it crashes. I've made sure the dll file is in the right place, i'm using obse v0019b. i think i might just do a clean install and start over. i'm also having problems with the Distant land, too.

I don't usually add mods that add things to the game, such as new cites and dungeons. I do have better cities, but i'm thinking of not using it, as it cuts my fps down dramatically in some cities.