From Oblivion to Skyrim - the nightmare continues..

Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:22 pm


antiscamp2 is right btw. civ IV and tes IV are the best games out there. too bad civ V svcks :(

antiscamp, make sure you give Master of Mana a try, best mod for Civ IV ;)


Yeah. Civ5 was a real debacle. I waited for that the entire last year and it was such a disappointment. Stonehenge was swimming in the water and nothing held together. I think I played three games through, did a bit of modding and lost interest. Is Master of Mana related to Fall from Heaven? I made an own fantasy mod for Civ4 called Fairy Tale.

I hope Skyrim won't be a disappointment like Civ5, and I hope I'm not waiting in vain, but we'll see. I've been playing the Elder Scrolls since Daggerfall, and they keep getting better though, but that's what I said about the Civ Series too...
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:06 pm

it's sure nice to know that this time around there won't be any shenanigans caused by uncertain hardware that oblivion had to suffer through :)

yep master of mana is based upon fall from heaven.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:57 am

I suspect in the end that the same rush job Microsoft caused on the game ended up affecting the CS as well, and they focused their attention on getting the game into a working state and weren't as concerned about the CS being a bit unstable and full of quirky bugs. Some of that was probably also caused by paring it down for public consumption. Given all the problems they faced, we should consider ourselves damn lucky the CS came out at all.


Arthmoor, isnt it quite a bit late to complain about MS strategies, especially as W7 became such a charmer?
And obviously Bethesda would not have to reschedule because of the lame Vista release in 2006. Pretty XP was released in 2001, and there is really no excuse by charging MS.

But I remind not having insisted on total bug free releases, but enduring technical support, even with patches (bug hunting is amusemant).
Good, epic CRPGs are going to have a lifetime of 5 years at least, probably a full decade.
Therefore RPGs are much more complex to develop as action games. Simply they need more resources to be produced and maintained.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:21 am

Arthmoor, isnt it quite a bit late to complain about MS strategies, especially as W7 became such a charmer?
And obviously Bethesda would not have to reschedule because of the lame Vista release in 2006. Pretty XP was released in 2001, and there is really no excuse by charging MS.


No, it's not too late to complain. Microsoft's release strategy for the XBox 360 is what caused all these problems. Not their release strategy for Vista.

But I remind not having insisted on total bug free releases, but enduring technical support, even with patches (bug hunting is amusemant).
Good, epic CRPGs are going to have a lifetime of 5 years at least, probably a full decade.
Therefore RPGs are much more complex to develop as action games. Simply they need more resources to be produced and maintained.


And Bethesda is still offering official technical support for the game they released. There are no game breaking bugs left in the vanilla release that require patching. They're even still offering official technical support for Morrowind 8 years later. I think they're fulfilling their obligations just fine in that regard.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:49 pm

And Bethesda is still offering official technical support for the game they released. There are no game breaking bugs left in the vanilla release that require patching. They're even still offering official technical support for Morrowind 8 years later. I think they're fulfilling their obligations just fine in that regard.

And I just like that every task switch stalls Oblivion, and its task has to be stopped via the task manager only.
no ground breaking issues....
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:08 am

Simple solution: Either play in windowed mode or don't task switch. That's not an issue that's unique to Oblivion by any stretch.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:08 am

Simple solution: Either play in windowed mode or don't task switch. That's not an issue that's unique to Oblivion by any stretch.


btw, your three town mods are really well (Molapi, Feldscar, Vergayun). After deinstalling Better Cities and Unique Landscapes,
my CTD rate drastically improved. I will keep both mod compilations deinstalled, as they both exceed what I call decent in any way.
Maybe there is some Better Cities & UL light someday.

Probably a nice tool would be, to write a log file giving you the mod or Form/EditorSD, where the error occured, which lead to the CTD.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:37 am

:violin:
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:04 am

Simple solution: Either play in windowed mode or don't task switch. That's not an issue that's unique to Oblivion by any stretch.

This. Or if you use Steam, add Oblivion as a non-Steam game (or the OBSE Loader if you use OBSE; you could also add OBMM if you prefer starting that way), and use the in-game overlay to browse the web; that's about the only thing I could think of that I personally might need to do while playing (anything else, I'll just close down the game). Alternatives to Steam's in-game overlay would be Raptr and possibly XFire (I don't know if XFire has in-game web-browsing; I never use it).
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