No sound in Oblivion : IV - Oblivion

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:44 pm

Yeah, I was looking at that. Do I just merge every tagged mod then? I'm really afraid of messing everything up!

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:24 am

I just merge the mod that Wrye bash suggest and the smaller ones (the ones that add/edit a single item or add a little feature). And don't worry, it's a safe system.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:16 pm

I bashed as much as possible, but I'm still at the limit.

Here's my latest load order:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2.1]04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  MD_Saddle_Master.esm07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0E  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm10  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]11  BetterMusicSystem.esm12  bookplacing.esm13  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]14  CLS-Craftybits.esm15  CM Partners.esm16  HorseCombatMaster.esm17  0 (DC)A Saints Tale Master.esm18  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]19  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]1B  Better Cities .esp1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp22  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]23  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2.1]++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp24  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]26  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]27  Portable Campsite.esp28  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]29  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp2A  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]2B  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp2C  Streamline 3.1.esp2D  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]2E  DLCHorseArmor.esp2F  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]30  DLCOrrery.esp31  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]32  DLCVileLair.esp33  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]34  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp37  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp38  Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp39  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]3A  Thieves Arsenal.esp3B  Mage Equipment.esp3C  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp3D  Armamentium female.esp3E  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp3F  DLCThievesDen.esp40  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]41  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]42  ExnemRuneskulls.esp43  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp44  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]45  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]46  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp47  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]48  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]4A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]4B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]4C  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]4D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]4E  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]4F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]51  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]54  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]56  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]59  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]5A  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5B  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5C  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5D  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]5E  Fransfemale.esp5F  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp  [Version 1.2]60  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp61  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]62  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp63  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp64  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp65  KnightlyArmory.esp66  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]67  AddisHeadhunterMod EV.esp68  AdenseEpicDungeon.esp69  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]6A  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]6B  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.11]6C  GTAesgaard.esp6D  GTAesgaard_2.esp6E  Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp  [Version 1.0]6F  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]70  JQ-AssassinQuest.esp71  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]72  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp73  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp74  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp75  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp76  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 1.5]77  Servant of the Dawn.esp78  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]79  thievery.esp7A  Valley_View_Estate.esp7B  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp7C  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp7D  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]7E  za_bankmod.esp7F  24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp80  Arena_BattlesV1.2EV.esp81  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp82  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]83  DLCfrostcrag.esp84  Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp85  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp86  Knights.esp87  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]88  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp**  DLC_MOBS.esp89  TOTF.esp8A  RTT.esp8B  The Lost Spires.esp8C  SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp8D  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]8E  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp8F  HoarfrostCastle.esp90  MannimarcoComplete.esp91  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]92  BrewHouse.esp93  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  EDI - Aggression Fix.esp94  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.8]95  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.6]96  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0]97  MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp98  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]99  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]9A  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp9B  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]9C  xulTheHeath.esp9D  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp9E  XulEntiusGorge.esp9F  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]A0  LostSpires-Everglade patch.espA1  ThievesGrotto-ColovianHighlands patch.espA2  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]A3  TheOrderofNibenay-Chorrol Hinterland patch.espA4  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]A5  BrewHouse-LostCoast patch.espA6  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]A7  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]A8  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]A9  SentientWeaponII-AncientYews patch.espAA  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]AB  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]AC  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]AD  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]AE  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.espAF  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]B0  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.espB1  xulPantherRiver.espB2  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]B3  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]B4  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]B5  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]B6  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]B7  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.espB8  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.espB9  DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.espBA  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]BB  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]BC  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]BD  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.espBE  OOO-Snowdale Patch.espBF  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]C0  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]C1  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espC2  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.espC3  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]C4  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]C5  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].espC6  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]C7  ATakesAll.espC8  CLS-Craftybits.espC9  CLS-CB-Cobl.espCA  CB-X-Skills Removal.espCB  Mighty Magick - Core.esp  [Version 1.2]CC  Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp  [Version 1.2]CD  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]CE  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]CF  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]D0  MidasSpells.esp++  MidasSpells - MMR Patch.espD1  attack and hide medium v2.1.espD2  StealthOverhaul.espD3  RenGuardOverhaul.espD4  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espD5  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.espD6  DRSplatter.espD7  nGCD.espD8  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]D9  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]DA  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]DB  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]DC  ProgressRacial.espDD  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]DE  ProgressMercantile.esp  [Version 1.11]DF  ActorsInEmotions.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.espE0  CM Partners.espE1  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.espE2  CM Partners NPC.espE3  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]E4  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]E5  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]E6  bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp  [Version 9.0EV-D]E7  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]E8  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]E9  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]EA  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.0]EB  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]EC  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]ED  Better Cities - Brew House.esp  [Version 4.7.0]EE  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]EF  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp  [Version 4.8.4]F0  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 4.7.0]F1  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]F2  Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp  [Version 4.7.0]F3  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.9.0]F4  Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp  [Version 4.7.0]F5  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]F6  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]F7  TheOubliette.esp**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire 1.espF8  Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]F9  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.90]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]FA  Bashed Patch, 0.espFB  VHQTransitionLodge.espFC  Adventure Pack 1.espFD  Adventure Pack 2.espFE  Lutherane.esp

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:28 am

62 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
63 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
64 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp

Well you can get rid of two esps here completely because you should only be using EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp in an FCOM install, delete the other two esps.
Also EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp is marked as NoMerge in Bash so you can deactivate this and import it into the bashed patch by ticking the import Graphics box and the esp in the list. That removes at least 3 activated esps. You will probably find you can import quite a few mods in your modlist this way. Click the modchecker - the little icon with a pencil and paper - and it well tell you the mods that can be either merged or should be deactivated and imported into your bashed parch.

2A Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]
4E Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]

I suggest you delete this, the fighters guild assignments and tests are bugged to high heaven and you'll get more frustration than fun out of this.

42 ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Delete this, it's not needed since it's already incorporated into the latest version of MMM.

84 Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp
85 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp

You have the original version of Frostcrag, so these are not needed and can be deleted.

88 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

Like the Eve for FCOM above you can deactivate this and Import Graphics into the bashed patch.

BF Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
C0 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

Are you certain you have the latest version of this? The one that comes with OOO has a bug in it that can cause CTDs when harvesting Harrada. Version 3.01 is available http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2037. I ask this because Wrye Bash reports version 3.0.0 for both for some reason.

++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.78]
You don't have Frostcrag Reborn, replace this with the normal Frostcrag esp.

BD FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp
See above, delete or replace with appropriate patch.

Just from my scanning of your list and comparing with the mods I have I can see at least the 10 esps I have outlined above that you can get rid of. Hope this helps.

Artorius

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:10 am

Thanks man!

Although I could've sworn I had Frostcrag Reborn installed.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:10 pm

Now I just need to figure out why TES4LOD keeps hardlocking.

Edit: I removed the mod that made LOD crash and now we're back to locking up at the opening loading screen.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:36 am

Bump because i'm seriously ready to just break this thing

Does anyone have steam and is willing to help me out on a one-on-one basis?

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:58 pm

Latest load order if it helps at all:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2.1]04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  MD_Saddle_Master.esm07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0E  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm10  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]11  BetterMusicSystem.esm12  bookplacing.esm13  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]14  CLS-Craftybits.esm15  CM Partners.esm16  HorseCombatMaster.esm17  0 (DC)A Saints Tale Master.esm18  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]19  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]1B  Better Cities .esp1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp22  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]23  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2.1]++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp24  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]26  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]27  Portable Campsite.esp28  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]29  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp2A  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp2B  Streamline 3.1.esp2C  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]2D  DLCHorseArmor.esp2E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2F  DLCOrrery.esp30  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]31  DLCVileLair.esp32  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]33  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp34  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]35  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp36  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp37  Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp38  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]39  Thieves Arsenal.esp3A  Mage Equipment.esp**  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp**  Armamentium female.esp3B  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp3C  DLCThievesDen.esp3D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3F  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp40  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]41  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]42  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp43  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]46  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]47  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]48  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]4A  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]53  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]54  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]56  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - 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» Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:25 am

bump

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:44 am

I have a hunch that your issue is not with TES4LODGEN but with this:

4F Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

Last year I had an issue with my savegames freezing when trying to load them. I found that if; when rebuilding my bashed patch; I didn't import scripts from OOO (whilst correctly importing everything else), the savegame loaded. I posted this issue on the FCOM thread and CorePC was able to diagnose the issue. It turns out that OOO has the same Gems & Dust built into it, so this can be solved by one of two ways:

1) Delete the above plugin - might be the preferred choice for you given the size of your modlist - and Rebuild your Bashed Patch (Note: Always get in the habit of rebuilding your bashed patch when changing your modlist)
2) Alternatively you can manually tag it with Import Scripts. To do this, select the plugin in Wrye Bash and right click the Bash Tags box in the bottom right hand corner. Select Import Scripts and click the Save button above the box. Rebuild your Bashed Patch and make sure to tick the plugin box in Import Scripts.

Hopefully this should cure your savegame freeze on loading problem.

Artorius.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:45 am

Sorry for the bump.

I tried reinstalling oblivion again with a fresh mod load and it STILL won't go past the first load screen.

Load order:

]

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  GTAesgaard_2.esm03  Windfall.esm04  Jog_X_Mod.esm05  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2]06  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]07  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]08  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0A  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0B  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0C  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0D  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0E  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0F  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]10  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]11  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm12  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]13  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.5.6]14  BetterMusicSystem.esm15  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]16  NNWAEMaster.esm17  CM Partners.esm18  TRoN.esp**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp19  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]1A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]1C  Better Cities .esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp20  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]21  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]22  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]23  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Symphony of Violence.esp24  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp++  Diverse Voices.esp  [Version 0.1a]25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]26  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]27  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]28  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]29  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp2A  FormID Finder4.esp2B  kuerteeActorDetails.esp2C  kuerteeCleanUp.esp2D  Streamline 3.1.esp2E  DLCHorseArmor.esp2F  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]30  DLCOrrery.esp31  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]32  DLCVileLair.esp33  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]34  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]36  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp37  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp38  NexonsArmoryENG.esp39  PureSteelBlade.esp3A  Thieves Arsenal.esp3B  Mage Equipment.esp3C  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp3D  DLCThievesDen.esp3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]3F  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp40  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]41  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]42  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp43  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]44  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]45  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]46  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]47  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]48  OCC-OOO-Patch.esp  [Version 2.4]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]49  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]4A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]4B  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]4C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]53  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]54  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]55  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]56  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - Loot Only.esp  [Version 1.2]57  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp58  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]59  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]5A  OCC-Ivellon-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]5B  AddisHeadhunterMod EV.esp5C  AdenseEpicDungeon.esp5D  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]5E  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.11]5F  GTAesgaard.esp60  GTAesgaard_2.esp61  Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp  [Version 1.0]62  JolardHome.esp63  JQ-AssassinQuest.esp64  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp65  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp66  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp67  OCC-KR-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp68  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp69  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 1.5]6A  GlenvarCastle.esp6B  Malevolent.esp6C  OCC-Malevolent-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]6D  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2]6E  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp6F  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp70  Servant of the Dawn.esp71  Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp72  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]73  thievery.esp74  Valley_View_Estate.esp75  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp76  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp77  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]78  OCC-Verona-Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]79  Windfall.esp7A  za_bankmod.esp7B  24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp7C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp7D  DLCBattlehornCastle - 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House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]C9  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]CA  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]CB  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]CC  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]CD  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]CE  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]CF  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]D0  RenGuardOverhaul.espD1  nGCD.espD2  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]D3  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]D4  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]D5  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]D6  ProgressRacial.espD7  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]D8  ActorsInEmotions.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]D9  CM Partners.espDA  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]DB  Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]DC  Elves Of Lineage II.espDD  Lattamer.espDE  CM Partners Special NPCs.espDF  CM Partners NPC.espE0  CM Partners More NPCs.espE1  CM Partners Marker NPCs.espE2  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espE3  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]E4  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E5  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E6  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E7  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]E8  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]E9  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]EA  OC+Integration Patch.esp  [Version 2.1]EB  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.0]EC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]ED  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]EE  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]EF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.7.0]F0  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.7.0]F1  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]F2  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.9.0]F3  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]F4  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]F5  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]F6  UnderdarkSaga.esp**  Open Cities Classic Road Record.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]F7  Bashed Patch, 0.espF8  AddisHeadhunterMod DV.espF9  Lera's Clothes for Men.espFA  Lutherane.esp

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:17 am

Try removing 04 Jog_X_Mod.esm and the rest that came with it and try again.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:48 am

Tried that, still nothing.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:27 pm

bump

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:23 am

Hmmm, did you delete the ini file from your previous install? Going from past things I've read though if I'm not mistaken that would probably cause a CTD upon launch so you wouldn't even make it to the loading screen but it's worth a try.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:45 pm

Hmmm, did you delete the ini file from your previous install? Going from past things I've read though if I'm not mistaken that would probably cause a CTD upon launch so you wouldn't even make it to the loading screen but it's worth a try.

Just want to add to this to say you should make sure you delete the ini from C:\Users\xxxx\Documents\MyGames.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:00 am

Yeah, I deleted the INI but it didn't fix it.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:59 pm

Bump.

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:30 pm

You have alot of mods and are all of them installed correctly is going to be my first question ?

Are you sure you can use Open Cities and Better Cities Togther I thought you could not..

Are BSA installed correctly for Better Cities, Franceso's,

Is the MMM.bsa named correctly for a FCOM install - FCOM_Convergence_Mart's Monster Mod.bsa

Have you tried disabling some mods and rebuilding the bash patch has well to narrow down what the problem is..

Else have you tried without any mods activated to make sure that Vanilla is working..

That is why you should never throw a whole bunch at once and expect it work, you should take time installing things and make sure things are working before adding in even more mods..

» Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:01 pm

Are you sure you can use Open Cities and Better Cities Togther I thought you could not..

Not the way he's doing it. Overlapping cities won't work.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:21 am

I tried disabling open cities. Still CTD's.

To the best of my knowledge, all the mods are installed correctly.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:20 am

To the best of my knowledge, all the mods are installed correctly.

Are you sure , Have you tried each mod by itself to make sure they are installed correctly, Are you sure Vanilla is working no mods ?

are you rebuilding your bashed patch each time you add new mods or remove them ?

have you thought about starting all over and doing a clean reinstall and then slowly adds mods back making sure they work before adding in new ones..?

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:45 am

Are you sure , Have you tried each mod by itself to make sure they are installed correctly, Are you sure Vanilla is working no mods ?

are you rebuilding your bashed patch each time you add new mods or remove them ?

have you thought about starting all over and doing a clean reinstall and then slowly adds mods back making sure they work before adding in new ones..?

Vanilla works fine, I can get past the opening dungeon with no problems.

Yeah, each time I add or remove mods I rebuild the bashed patch.

As for checking each one individually, that would take forever but It might be my only choice. This is also on a fresh install.

» Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:06 am

So I did just that.

I reinstalled each mod and tested each for 5 mins of gameplay and have only had one mod, Race Balancing Project, that causes CTD's. I have no idea why though. The Light version works fine.

Here's my much smaller load order:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0B  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.0EV-L]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp12  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]15  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2]16  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]17  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]18  Streamline 3.1.esp19  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]1A  DLCHorseArmor.esp1B  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1C  DLCOrrery.esp1D  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1E  DLCVileLair.esp1F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]20  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp21  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]22  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp23  DLCThievesDen.esp24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]25  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp26  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]27  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]28  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp29  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]2C  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]2D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]2E  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]2F  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]30  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]32  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]3A  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]3B  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3D  GTAesgaard.esp3E  GTAesgaard_2.esp3F  Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp  [Version 1.0]40  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp41  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]42  DLCFrostcrag.esp43  Knights.esp44  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]45  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp46  The Lost Spires.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]47  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]48  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]49  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp4A  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]4B  nGCD.esp4C  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]4D  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]4E  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]4F  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]50  ProgressRacial.esp51  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]52  ActorsInEmotions.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]53  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]54  Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]55  Elves Of Lineage II.esp56  Lattamer.esp++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp57  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp58  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]59  Bashed Patch, 0.esp