TNR help : IV

» Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:31 am

Hey,

Could anyone give me some clues as to why TNR faces aren't working for me?

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Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]8C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

And in my rebuild patch I have "Import NPC Faces" selected and TNR and TNR SI sub-options checked as well.

What am I missing?

Tnx!

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:29 pm

What exactly is not working?

AFAIK it's required to uncheck TNR. Wrye Bash imports all faces into the bashed patch.

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:57 pm

What exactly is not working?

AFAIK it's required to uncheck TNR. Wrye Bash imports all faces into the bashed patch.

I am not seeing any new faces..

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:14 pm

I am not seeing any new faces..

Did you uncheck TNR from the main mod view in Wrye Bash, as FallenWizard suggested? Instead, you check it off in your Bashed Patch. When you rebuild it, TNR should load properly.

Then you'll need to load the game, go to a new cell, save the game, exit, and reload the game, before you'll see any changes.

» Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:06 am

Did you uncheck TNR from the main mod view in Wrye Bash, as FallenWizard suggested? Instead, you check it off in your Bashed Patch. When you rebuild it, TNR should load properly.

Then you'll need to load the game, go to a new cell, save the game, exit, and reload the game, before you'll see any changes.

Yes, I did all those things. No new faces.

I am having a similar problem with the Sensual walks ... but in that case at least some of the female NPCs walking about are using the new walk, but some aren't.

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:09 pm

Yes, I did all those things. No new faces.

I am having a similar problem with the Sensual walks ... but in that case at least some of the female NPCs walking about are using the new walk, but some aren't.

A few other possibilities: Are you running any other mod that might interfere, such as COBL Balanced Races, or BG Races? Does TNR appear in Wrye Bash was the Bashed Tags of Deactivate, Invent, NoMerge, and NpcFaces? If so, is it italicized in purple, with a dot in the check column?

You might want to put up the Sensual Walks mod issue in a separate thread, or up on Nexus. Surazal checks both forums, regularly.

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:29 pm

A few other possibilities: Are you running any other mod that might interfere, such as COBL Balanced Races, or BG Races? Does TNR appear in Wrye Bash was the Bashed Tags of Deactivate, Invent, NoMerge, and NpcFaces? If so, is it italicized in purple, with a dot in the check column?

You might want to put up the Sensual Walks mod issue in a separate thread, or up on Nexus. Surazal checks both forums, regularly.

BOSS put "Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}}"

The only mod I am using that could conflict is ROM, and it shouldn't. You can see from my mod list on the first post that I am not using any race mod.

» Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:13 am

BOSS put "Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:NpcFaces,NoMerge}}"

The only mod I am using that could conflict is ROM, and it shouldn't. You can see from my mod list on the first post that I am not using any race mod.

Try adding the Deactivate tag, uncheck the box from the main mod screen, and rebuild your patch.

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:59 pm

Try adding the Deactivate tag, uncheck the box from the main mod screen, and rebuild your patch.

Yep, that did it. Thanks!

Last question, does Natural faces complement TNR, conflict or just irrelevant?

» Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:47 am

Yep, that did it. Thanks!

Glad to hear it.

Last question, does Natural faces complement TNR, conflict or just irrelevant?

Complements. It increases the resolution of the base texture, so it doesn't affect other, more personalized characteristics. Run Natural Faces now, after you've correctly added TNR.

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:28 pm

Try adding the Deactivate tag, uncheck the box from the main mod screen, and rebuild your patch.

I saw a similar suggestion in another thread. Deactivateing TNR was always the norm some time back, but over the past months BOSS does not add deactivate to it.

» Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:27 pm

I saw a similar suggestion in another thread. Deactivateing TNR was always the norm some time back, but over the past months BOSS does not add deactivate to it.

Because Wrye Bash deactivates all mods with the "NoMerge" tag automatically.