Off-Target Camera

Post » Mon May 02, 2011 9:45 pm

Just a problem I have had since I re-installed the game. The camera is slightly off center in the first person. Slightly down and to the left I think. I am pretty sure it is caused by Deadly Reflex 6 or DD6 in conjunction with another mod.

Here is my load order in case it is DD6 with another mod. If it is just DD6 I may get rid of it as it is now quite annoying to play in the first person.


Active Mod Files:
? 00 Oblivion.esm

? 01 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

? 02 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 03 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]

? 04 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.0]

? 05 CM Partners.esm

? 06 HorseCombatMaster.esm

? 07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

? 08 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

? 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

? 0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

? 0B Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

? 0C Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 0D Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 0E Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 0F Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 10 WindowLightingSystem.esp

? 11 Living Economy.esp

? 12 Living Economy - Items.esp

? 13 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

? 14 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]

? 15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

? 16 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 17 DLCOrrery.esp

? 18 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

? 19 DLCVileLair.esp

? 1A DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 1B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

? 1C DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 1D DLCSpellTomes.esp

? ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 1E Thieves Arsenal.esp

? 1F DLCThievesDen.esp

? 20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 22 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

? ++ OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33]

? 23 OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]

? 24 OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]

? 25 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]

? 26 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 27 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 28 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p]

? 29 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2A Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2B Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2C Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2D Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 2F Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 30 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 32 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 33 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 35 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4]

? 36 VHQTransitionLodge.esp

? 37 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

? 38 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 39 DLCFrostcrag.esp

? 3A DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 3B Knights.esp

? 3C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

? 3D The Lost Spires.esp

? 3E xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 3F xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 40 xulTheHeath.esp

? 41 XulEntiusGorge.esp

? 42 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

? 43 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

? 44 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 45 VeronaHouseBloodlines-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

? 46 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

? 47 VeronaHouseBloodlines-LostCoast fix.esp

? 48 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 49 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]

? 4A VeronaHouseBloodlines-LushWoodlands fix.esp

? 4B xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

? 4C xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

? 4D xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

? 4E xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

? 4F xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

? 50 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]

? 51 xulPantherRiver.esp

? 52 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 53 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]

? 54 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]

? 55 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

? 56 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 57 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 58 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 59 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 5A xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

? 5B Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 5C tkHairPack01.esp

? 5D SylarESP.esp

? 5E CM Partners.esp

? 5F CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

? 60 CM Partners NPC.esp

? 61 CM Partners More NPCs.esp

? 62 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

? 63 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 64 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.0]

? 65 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]

? 66 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.0]

? 67 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0]

? 68 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4]

? 69 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? 6A Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? 6B Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 4.9.0]

? 6C Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1]

? 6D Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.9.0]

? 6E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

? 6F HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.0.1]

? 70 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp

? 71 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
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sarah simon-rogaume
 
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 3:43 am

Just a problem I have had since I re-installed the game. The camera is slightly off center in the first person. Slightly down and to the left I think. I am pretty sure it is caused by Deadly Reflex 6 or DD6 in conjunction with another mod.

Here is my load order in case it is DD6 with another mod. If it is just DD6 I may get rid of it as it is now quite annoying to play in the first person.


Don't know what's causing your camera issue, but some notes on your MMM install:

? 26 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - Skip. Only use:

? 27 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]


? 2E Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - Use either/or, not both.

? 2F Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]


? 33 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - Update to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1165282-relz-martsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/page__view__findpost__p__17136377.


? ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - Skip. Only use:

? ++ Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]


? 59 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] - Needs OOO patch.
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Trevor Bostwick
 
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 9:55 am

If I remember right, there was a 3rd person animations in 1st person view skeleton incorporated with DR6's 1st person view, the one from Loup Sombre, wasn't it?
If it is, then you "must not" have any 'real' 1st person animations playing in your game ever anymore or you will encounter your camera getting dislocated (semi-permanently! as in hard to fix). Only 3rd person animations are allowed to play when in 1st person now. This is especially also true for so-called "special anims" or "special idles" from the likewise named folder, which is a tough thing to debug and fix as they're not always telling for which view they are in their filenames and there are no different folders for the two views as is in the "characters" folder.
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Andrea Pratt
 
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 7:00 pm

So from what you are saying it sounds like I am screwed. It goes away when I uninstall DR6 so I may end up doing that and looking elsewhere for combat mods. Would reinstalling help? How do I get rid of the 'real' first person animations to avoid this problem?
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