Bashed patch causes oblivion to freeze on startup : IV

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:41 am

I have a problem with my bashed patch in wrye bash. Im trying to get Fcom to work and when I try to create my bashed patch if i only select merge patches and the leveled lists options the game runs fine, but if i select any of the import options the game freezes at the startup loading screen.

Im using the latest version of wrye python and wrye bash and im only trying to import the main fcom mods *obsurio, francescos, warcry etc*

im following the guide from this thread
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1152645-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/

Here is my load order if it helps

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  A_Bloody_Mess.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.4]0E  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.1]11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Fran Armor Add-on.esp17  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp18  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]19  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Symphony of Violence.esp1A  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]1B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]1C  Streamline 3.1.esp1D  DLCHorseArmor.esp1E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1F  DLCOrrery.esp20  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]21  DLCVileLair.esp22  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]23  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp24  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]25  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]26  Armamentium female.esp27  DLCThievesDen.esp28  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]29  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]2B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]30  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]32  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]33  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]34  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]35  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]38  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]39  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]3A  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3B  Fransfemale.esp3C  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]3D  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3E  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3F  thievery.esp40  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]41  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp42  DLCFrostcrag.esp43  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]44  Knights.esp45  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]46  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp48  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp49  Ring of console.esp4A  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]4B  MidasSpells.esp4C  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas PowDur1.5x.esp4D  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp4E  StealthOverhaul.esp4F  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]50  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]51  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:32 am

Its best to import everything that BOSS recommends. I'm not savvy enough with how the bashed patch functions though to be able to give much more help. You would have been better off posting this at the Wrye Bash thread.

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:50 pm

I have a problem with my bashed patch in wrye bash. Im trying to get Fcom to work and when I try to create my bashed patch if i only select merge patches and the leveled lists options the game runs fine, but if i select any of the import options the game freezes at the startup loading screen.

Im using the latest version of wrye python and wrye bash and im only trying to import the main fcom mods *obsurio, francescos, warcry etc*

Some notes on your load order:

09 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] - Update to UFCOM. MMM 3.7b3p3 requires it.

0E UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Use the Bashed Patch tweak instead and save a slot.

29 ExnemRuneskulls.esp - You don't need this with FCOM.

30 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Update to 109.

35 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Update to UFCOM as said.

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] - Don't use both this and:
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Choose one.

Start with that and rebuild the Bashed Patch - then repost your updated load order if you still have the issue.

Also, having Mayu's Skeleton tweaker checked in the Bashed Patch w/o having the actual mod will cause CTD on startup - so make sure it isn't.

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:00 am

Some notes on your load order:

09 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] - Update to UFCOM. MMM 3.7b3p3 requires it.

0E UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Use the Bashed Patch tweak instead and save a slot.

29 ExnemRuneskulls.esp - You don't need this with FCOM.

30 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Update to 109.

35 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Update to UFCOM as said.

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] - Don't use both this and:
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp [Version 0.9.9] - Choose one.

Start with that and rebuild the Bashed Patch - then repost your updated load order if you still have the issue.

Also, having Mayu's Skeleton tweaker checked in the Bashed Patch w/o having the actual mod will cause CTD on startup - so make sure it isn't.

Nope, still doesnt work.

I had some problems updating to UFCOM. After installing it using omm i saw in wrye bash that most fcom mods were red and on them said master esm missing. So i dont know if the install renamed the esm or something but what i did was manually import the fcomconvergence,esm from the unofficial fcom update.

Also while installing ufcom i got an error message saying runeskulls esp not found so i reinstalled it.

I also updated fcomwarcry and deleted the UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp and COM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp

Here is my new load order

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  A_Bloody_Mess.esm0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.4]0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.1]10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  Fran Armor Add-on.esp16  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp17  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]18  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Symphony of Violence.esp19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]1A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]1B  Streamline 3.1.esp1C  DLCHorseArmor.esp1D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1E  DLCOrrery.esp1F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]20  DLCVileLair.esp21  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]22  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp23  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]24  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]25  Armamentium female.esp26  DLCThievesDen.esp27  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]28  ExnemRuneskulls.esp++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]2A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2B  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2C  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]2F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]30  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]31  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]32  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]33  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]35  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]37  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]38  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]39  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3A  Fransfemale.esp3B  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]3C  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3D  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3E  thievery.esp3F  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]40  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp41  DLCFrostcrag.esp42  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]43  Knights.esp44  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]45  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]46  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp47  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp48  Ring of console.esp49  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]4A  MidasSpells.esp4B  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas PowDur1.5x.esp4C  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp4D  StealthOverhaul.esp4E  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]4F  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Edit_ Mayu's Skeleton tweaker wasnt checked either

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:45 am

I got it working!

I read some other threads where i got the tip to uncheck import actor spells and it worked. Im not sure what the implications of this is but the game seems to work fine now.

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:50 am

I got it working!

I read some other threads where i got the tip to uncheck import actor spells and it worked. Im not sure what the implications of this is but the game seems to work fine now.

Try just unchecking FCOM_Convergence.esp under import actors spells. A couple of others have had the same issue if that's checked, but it's a weird issue as it works for most. Ideally, the load orders of those who have the issue should be compared so it can be pin downed.

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:36 pm

Try just unchecking FCOM_Convergence.esp under import actors spells. A couple of others have had the same issue if that's checked, but it's a weird issue as it works for most. Ideally, the load orders of those who have the issue should be compared so it can be pin downed.

I tried that and it works like a charm, hopefully my game will run smoothly from now on,
Thanks for all your help!

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:30 am

I tried that and it works like a charm, hopefully my game will run smoothly from now on,
Thanks for all your help!

I wonder if it might be connected to A Bloody Mess or perhaps Thievery in the city? Those are just about the only "odd" plugins in your load order.