FCOM installation problem. : IV

» Tue May 03, 2011 7:00 am

This is not the first time I have installed FCOM, but it is the first time it has failed consistently. I have done everything the FCOM site and the MMM forum thread has asked and yet it CTDs just after I choose to either start a new game or load a save (when I choose a new game it crashes just after the Emperor does his speech).

I am at a loss. I have no idea where I am going wrong.

I am playing the Steam Version on an 8GB Windows 7 64 bit system.

Any and all help is appreciated. Below is my mod listing.

Spoiler

= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]* 02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]* 03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]* 08  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]* **  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]* **  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]* 09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.4]* 0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]* 0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp* 0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp* 0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp* 0F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp* ++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 10  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]* 11  DLCHorseArmor.esp* 12  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 13  DLCOrrery.esp* 14  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 15  DLCVileLair.esp* 16  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 17  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp* 18  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 19  DLCSpellTomes.esp* ++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 1A  DLCThievesDen.esp* 1B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]* 1C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 1D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]* 1E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]* 1F  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 20  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 21  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 22  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp* ++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 23  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]* 24  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 25  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]* **  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]* **  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]* 26  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]* ++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]* 27  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]* ++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]* 28  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 29  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 2A  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 30  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* **  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]* **  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 31  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 32  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]* ++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]* 33  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]* ++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]* 34  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]* ++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]* 35  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp* 36  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 37  DLCFrostcrag.esp* 38  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 39  Knights.esp* 3A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]* ++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]* 3B  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]* ++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]* 3C  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]* **  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]* 3D  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]* 3E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:14 pm

This is not the first time I have installed FCOM, but it is the first time it has failed consistently. I have done everything the FCOM site and the MMM forum thread has asked and yet it CTDs just after I choose to either start a new game or load a save (when I choose a new game it crashes just after the Emperor does his speech).

I am at a loss. I have no idea where I am going wrong.

I am playing the Steam Version on an 8GB Windows 7 64 bit system.

Any and all help is appreciated. Below is my mod listing.

Spoiler

= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]* 02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]* 03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]* 08  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]* **  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]* **  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]* 09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.4]* 0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]* 0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp* 0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp* 0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp* 0F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp* ++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 10  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]* 11  DLCHorseArmor.esp* 12  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 13  DLCOrrery.esp* 14  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 15  DLCVileLair.esp* 16  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 17  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp* 18  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 19  DLCSpellTomes.esp* ++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 1A  DLCThievesDen.esp* 1B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]* 1C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 1D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]* 1E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]* 1F  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 20  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 21  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 22  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp* ++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 23  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]* 24  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 25  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]* **  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]* **  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]* 26  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]* ++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]* 27  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]* ++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]* 28  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 29  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 2A  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2E  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 30  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* **  FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp  [Version 1]* **  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 31  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* 32  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]* ++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]* 33  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]* ++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]* 34  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]* ++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]* 35  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp* 36  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 37  DLCFrostcrag.esp* 38  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 39  Knights.esp* 3A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]* ++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]* 3B  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]* ++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]* 3C  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]* **  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]* ++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]* 3D  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]* 3E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Make sure MMM.bsa is renamed correctly, i.e. FCOM_Convergence_Mart's Monster Mod.bsa

» Tue May 03, 2011 8:10 am

If you are not missing the resources try loading without the bashed patch to see if it lets you start a new game without crashing.

Or use the 50 step method to activate the ESM.esp files one by one.

Now, in your LO you have MMM Gems & gem dust and you should not use that.
Also the MMM Runeskulls plugin for Gems and Gem dust should not be used.

Run BOSS and read the result file, it will point out some things.

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:27 pm

Make sure MMM.bsa is renamed correctly, i.e. FCOM_Convergence_Mart's Monster Mod.bsa

Yeah I did that.

If you are not missing the resources try loading without the bashed patch to see if it lets you start a new game without crashing.

Or use the 50 step method to activate the ESM.esp files one by one.

Now, in your LO you have MMM Gems & gem dust and you should not use that.
Also the MMM Runeskulls plugin for Gems and Gem dust should not be used.

Run BOSS and read the result file, it will point out some things.

It seems the Bashed Patch is the problem. I can load/start a game when I dont use it, and get a CTD when I do. Very strange.

» Mon May 02, 2011 9:45 pm

It seems the Bashed Patch is the problem. I can load/start a game when I dont use it, and get a CTD when I do. Very strange.

Look at the animation replacer settings on the bash patch options menu. Do not check any you don't absolutely need.

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:41 am

Yeah I did that.

It seems the Bashed Patch is the problem. I can load/start a game when I dont use it, and get a CTD when I do. Very strange.

If you have Mayu's Skeleton tweaker checked w/o the actual mod it will CTD on startup. For a couple of users having FCOM_Convergence.esp checked under Import spells causes a CTD on startup (weird issue). But I've never heard of Bashed Patch settings causing CTD when starting a new game I think. But do as gothemasticator said. Also, double check that you have the resources and that they are loading, i.e. that you have OOO 1.33 Complete plus 1.34 Beta 5, that Fran's bsa is loading etc.

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:54 am

If you have Mayu's Skeleton tweaker checked w/o the actual mod it will CTD on startup. For a couple of users having FCOM_Convergence.esp checked under Import spells causes a CTD on startup (weird issue). But I've never heard of Bashed Patch settings causing CTD when starting a new game I think. But do as gothemasticator said. Also, double check that you have the resources and that they are loading, i.e. that you have OOO 1.33 Complete plus 1.34 Beta 5, that Fran's bsa is loading etc.

That seems to have been the problem. Cheers everyone for your help.