Textures Disappearing and...Reappearing? : IV

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:53 pm

I'm not sure what is causing it, but after playing for a few minutes or so, some textures bug out and are completely black or pink as if the texture can't be found. I thought that it might be an installation error of one of my mods, but if I reload my save (before or after seeing the glitch) everything is fine. After a few minutes of playing the glitch happens again. The missing textures can't be tracked to any particular mod either. I've had missing textures on character bodies and armor to missing textures on vanilla crates, barrels, and rugs. Has anyone else ran into this issue? Here is my load order if it helps.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Jog_X_Mod.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]06  Qarls_Harvest.esm07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]09  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0A  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0D  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.4]0E  BetterMusicSystem.esm0F  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]10  CustomSpellIcons.esm11  HorseCombatMaster.esm**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp  [Version 1.06]**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.00]12  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]13  DLCShiveringIsles.esp14  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]15  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]++  Shivering OOO.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp19  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]1E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1F  AN Scripts.esp++  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp20  AmbientTownSounds.esp21  MIS Low Wind.esp22  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp23  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp24  Storms & Sound.esp25  Rainbows.esp26  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]27  WindowLightingSystem.esp28  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp29  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp2A  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Cobl Bookjackets.esp2B  diversegrasses.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]2C  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]2D  Qarls_Harvest.esp++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]++  shiveringislesdoorusable.esp2E  TryBeforeYouBuy.esp++  AC_Gold_Coins.esp2F  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]30  kuerteeSimpleVampirismExpanded.esp31  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp32  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.3.1]33  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]34  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp  [Version 1.8]35  FormID Finder4.esp36  Get Wet - just droplets.esp37  Lock Bash Omega.esp  [Version 1.5]38  marksman_challenge.esp39  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]3A  QZ Easy Menus.esp3B  Streamline 3.1.esp3C  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.8]3D  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]3E  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1]3F  DLCHorseArmor.esp40  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.91]41  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]42  Compatibility Patch - DLCHorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.0.0]43  DLCOrrery.esp44  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]45  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]46  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp47  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  Mehrunes_mobs.esp48  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]49  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp4A  PTArtifacts.esp4B  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]4C  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp4D  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp4E  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]4F  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]51  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]52  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp  [Version 0.5]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OOO-NoLockBash.esp53  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]54  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]55  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]56  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]59  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5A  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]5B  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5C  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp  [Version 2]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]5D  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5E  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]**  Fransfemale.esp5F  Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp60  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp61  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]62  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.10]63  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]64  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp65  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp66  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp67  EiAmod.esp  [Version 1.1]++  EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp68  Malevolent.esp69  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]6A  eyja.esp6B  thievery.esp6C  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]6D  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp6E  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.1]6F  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.5]70  Knights.esp**  Knights - Book Jackets.esp71  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]72  TOTF.esp73  TOTF-EiAE Patch.esp74  RTT.esp75  The Lost Spires.esp76  Mighty Umbra.esp77  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp78  MannimarcoRevisited.esp79  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]7A  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]7B  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]7C  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.9]7D  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.5]7E  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.6]7F  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]80  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]81  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]82  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp83  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]84  xulTheHeath.esp85  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp86  XulEntiusGorge.esp87  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]88  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp89  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]8A  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]8B  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]8C  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]8D  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]8E  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]8F  SentientWeaponII-AncientYews patch.esp90  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]91  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]92  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]93  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]94  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]95  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp96  xulPantherRiver.esp97  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]98  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]99  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]9A  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]9B  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]9C  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp9D  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp9E  DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp9F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]A0  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]A1  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]A2  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A3  OOO-Snowdale Patch.espA4  xulCliffsOfAnvil.espA5  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.0]A6  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]A7  EtInArkay-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.espA8  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.espA9  ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]AA  West Roads.espAB  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]AC  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]**  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp**  Alluring Wine Bottles.espAD  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]AE  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 2.0.1]AF  DS Less Predictable Respawn.esp  [Version 1.1]B0  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.espB1  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]B2  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.espB3  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]B4  Enhanced Vegetation [110%].esp++  Short Grass V3.espB5  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]B6  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.espB7  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.espB8  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]B9  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]BA  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espBB  SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp  [Version 2.6]BC  RealisticHealth.espBD  RealisticForceLow.espBE  RealisticMagicForceMedium.espBF  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]C0  Ashes to Ashes.esp  [Version 1.0]C1  Fizzle.esp  [Version 3.0]C2  RshAlchemy.espC3  Enchantment Enhanced.espC4  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]C5  StealthOverhaul.espC6  Thievery_Hard_Thrill.espC7  Morrowind Lockpicking.espC8  RenGuardOverhaul.espC9  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]CA  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]CB  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espCC  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espCD  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp  [Version 7.1]CE  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espCF  SMCombatRegen.esp  [Version 1.00]D0  Phitt's Phighting Phixes.espD1  nGCD.espD2  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.espD3  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]D4  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]D5  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]D6  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]D7  ProgressRacial.espD8  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]D9  The Versatile Adventurer.espDA  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]++  Immediate Character Generation.esp**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]DB  Useful Houses.esp  [Version 2.0]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]DC  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]DD  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]DE  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]DF  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E0  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]E1  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]E2  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.7.7]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge Better Redguards.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]**  bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp  [Version 9.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]E3  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]E4  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.4]E5  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]E6  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]E7  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]E8  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 4.7.0]E9  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]EA  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]EB  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]EC  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.8.4]ED  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.4]EE  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]EF  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]F0  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]F1  No More Annoying Comments.esp++  Disable Tutorial Text.espF2  No More Annoying Messages.esp  [Version 1.3]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]F3  DS Flaming Arrows.esp  [Version 1.2]F4  Shining Creatures.esp  [Version 1.2]++  DBED - 3 murders Level delay.esp  [Version 1.0]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.espF5  Companion Compatibility.esp**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 2.09]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]F6  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I'm also having random crashes with this new game as well but the issues have been limited to the Waterfront district of the Imperial City for the time being. I don't recall crashing anywhere else. The disappearing textures seem to happen no matter where I'm at however. Any ideas?

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:30 am

Don't think this would be it, but...are you using archive invalidation?

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:15 am

I suppose it could be gfx card overheating or actually breaking down. :shrug:

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:14 am

Looking at your load order, this is what I would guess:

In you data folder, add up your ESP, ESM, and BSA files, and I bet they are getting close to 400. If so and you are not using the "auto ghost" feature in Wrye Bash then do so, and it will rename the merged ESP files to "ESP.Ghost". This keeps the game engine from "seeing them". For some reason if the total number of ESP, ESM, and BSA files gets close to 400 or so the game engine freaks out, loses textures, meshes, you will fall through floors, it will crash, etc.

» Tue May 03, 2011 4:38 am

You're over the 255 ESP limit, by a long shot. F6 = 246 in Hexidecimal. That's not including all of your merged mods, which you have plenty of. You either need to ghost them or start merging. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8665 is a rather simple utility to merge ESPs.

» Tue May 03, 2011 3:55 am

thx for the info...i was having the exact same issue and it was driving me crazy...once i checked the number of .esp, esm and bsa's it was close to 400...

so thx for the help..