Clones problem

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:18 am

I have some clones problem since I installed Blood&Mud DirtDeluxe.
Either on http://m.uploadedit.com/b92/18545897.gif or on http://m.UploadEdit.com/b92/76551998.gif
I thought it was due to a bad switch from BetterCities Full to BetterCities Full - B&M Edition.
Bloo&Mud esp was cleaned right after installation with TES4Edit 3.0.15

Unfortunately doing a full clean save (hide in TestHall=>untick all but oblivion.esm=>reload=>Save new slot) didn't fix it
Can I delete the clones with the disable console command ?
Which one do I choose: bigger or lower id ?

If it helps, here my load order
Spoiler
=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  TR_OoT_Main.esm* 02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm* 03  You Are Here.esm* 04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]* 05  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm* 06  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]* 07  BathingMod_Base.esm* 08  ScreenEffects.esm* 09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.4]* 0A  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp* 0B  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 0C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.1]* 0D  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]* 0E  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]* 0F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]* 10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]* 11  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp* ++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.2]* ++  Symphony of Violence.esp* 12  Distant Chapel Bells.esp* 13  Storms & Sound.esp* 14  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]* 15  Cities Alive At Night.esp* 16  WindowLightingSystem.esp* 17  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.3]* 18  AliveWaters.esp* 19  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp* 1A  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp* 1B  ImprovedSigns.esp* 1C  personality_idles3b.esp* 1D  P1DseeYouSleep.esp* ++  VA_BetterGold.esp* 1E  wd purse of wonders.esp* 1F  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]* 20  Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 1.3.1]* 21  Get Wet.esp* 22  Musical Immersion 1.0.esp* 23  ScreenControls.esp* 24  Streamline 3.1.esp* 25  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.0]* 26  DLCHorseArmor.esp* 27  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 28  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]* 29  DLCOrrery.esp* 2A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]* 2B  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]* 2C  DLCVileLair.esp* 2D  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* ++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]* 2E  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp* 2F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp* 30  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 31  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]* 32  DLCSpellTomes.esp* ++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* **  Book Jackets DLC.esp* 33  Black Luster.esp* ++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp* ++  doofdillas_potions_recolored_sorted_v0_3_1.esp  [Version 0.3.1]* ++  FineWeapons.esp* 34  Oddbasket Glass Replace ALT.esp* ++  RustyItems.esp* 35  Underworld Armor.esp* 36  UFF & RM Black Exnem Warrior Armor.esp* 37  UFF Jewelry Collection.esp* 38  UFF Sinblood's Velvet Rose.esp* 39  TFF_Armor_Base.esp* 3A  TFF_Clothing_Base.esp* 3B  DarkRoseSet.esp* 3C  Slof's Horses Base.esp* 3D  DLCThievesDen.esp* 3E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 3F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 40  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]* 41  Adventurers_1.0.esp* 42  cyrodiil transportation network wz.esp* 43  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp* 44  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 1.5BCE]* 45  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp* 46  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp* 47  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]* 48  Side's Cheydinhal House.esp  [Version 1.01]* 49  Side's Cheydinhal House (BathMod).esp  [Version 1.0]* ++  SYS Patch-Side's Cheydinhal House.esp* 4A  Side's Skingrad House.esp  [Version 1.0]* 4B  Side's Skingrad House (Bathing).esp  [Version 0.95]* ++  SYS Patch for Sides Skingrad House.esp* 4C  TR_Stirk.esp* 4D  Valenwood Improved.esp  [Version 1.02.0]* 4E  DLCFrostcrag.esp* 4F  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 50  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]* 51  The Lost Spires.esp* 52  Blood&Mud.esp* 53  ElsweyrAnequina.esp* 54  Elsweyr plantations & co..esp* 55  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp* 56  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp* 57  Walkabout.esp* 58  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6]* 59  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.8]* 5A  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.6]* 5B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0]* 5C  Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]* 5D  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 5E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]* 5F  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp* 60  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]* 61  xulTheHeath.esp* 62  SutchReborn-TheHeath patch.esp* 63  XulEntiusGorge.esp* 64  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]* 65  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp* 66  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp* 67  Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 68  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]* 69  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]* 6A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]* 6B  SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp* 6C  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]* 6D  Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp* 6E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]* 6F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]* 70  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]* 71  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]* 72  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]* 73  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]* 74  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]* 75  xulPantherRiver.esp* 76  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp* 77  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* 78  Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 79  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]* 7A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]* 7B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]* 7C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 7D  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* 7E  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* 7F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* 80  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 81  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* 82  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 83  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp* 84  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.1]* 85  West Roads.esp* 86  bartholm.esp* ++  Real Lava 1.3.esp* 87  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]* ++  NoRandomOBGatesEVER.esp* 88  2nd to 1st person.esp* 89  HarderRepairs_5.esp* 8A  ImprovedSoulgems.esp  [Version 1.11]* 8B  JQ-Backpacks.esp* ++  Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp* 8C  Wayshrine_Redesign.esp* 8D  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp* 8E  DurableEquipment_10.esp* 8F  BathingMod_Soap.esp* 90  BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp* 91  BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp* 92  RealisticForceMedium.esp* 93  RealisticMagicForceLow.esp* 94  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]* 95  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]* 96  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]* ++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]* ++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]* 97  RenGuardOverhaul.esp* 98  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp* 99  Intelligence Overhaul BJ.esp* 9A  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp* ++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp* ++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp* ++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp* 9B  BP_Roberts_BR_Hair.esp* **  TFF & ROBERT & Slof's Better Beasts.esp* ++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp* 9C  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* 9D  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* 9E  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]* 9F  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* A0  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* A1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* A2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]* A3  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]* A4  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.9.1]* A5  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.1]* A6  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.9.5]* A7  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]* A8  Better Clocks for Better Cities.esp* A9  MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp  [Version 1.2]* **  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp* AA  Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp* AB  WNewShockBoltEffects20.esp  [Version 2.0]* **  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp* **  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]* AC  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:29 am

You can see by the FormID's that these are the problem.

* 9C Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.9.5]
* 9D Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.9.5]

You only need one of them.

Edit: Looking closer at the archive it looks like both these files are the same size, leading to believe they are the same thing and the one is not really a "patch" as it should be. Might want to bring this up in the Better Cities thread or maybe Vorians will stumble upon this thread.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:35 pm

You can see by the FormID's that these are the problem.


You only need one of them.

Edit: Looking closer at the archive it looks like both these files are the same size, leading to believe they are the same thing and the one is not really a "patch" as it should be. Might want to bring this up in the Better Cities thread or maybe Vorians will stumble upon this thread.


Now I understand the formid stuff.
Thanks for your help, I'll bring that to the better cities thread, as the FPS patch was installed by OBMM
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