Ahh Random Crashes! : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:58 am

Not sure whats causing them, because i'm still trying to repair my game from installing DR6 (Which also messed up my first person view attacks, i.e if you do the normal power attack standing still it shows you as 3rd person in first person offset to the right side and you cant fix it.)

But anyway, my last crash was just me sleeping in the flowing bowl in anvil...

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» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:05 am

Have you disabled the Oblivion save options yet? Streamline does a very good job of keeping saves. I am going to plug for OSR, I used Heap 2 and it fixed alot of my crashing problems.
I know that you can disable the Faked First Person in UV by editing the ini file.
Have you tried to regenerate your ini settings by renaming the file called Oblivion in Documents\My Games\Oblivion to Backup and restarting your game? I will try and add to this post later, You should be able to undo all of the changes made by DR6 without too much trouble.
EDIT have you cleaned ot the kf files in Meshes\Characters\_male, You can leave the kf files in folders alone, they usually belong to a single esp. You may need to reinstall the kf files needed by DR5 and UV.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:54 am

Have you disabled the Oblivion save options yet? Streamline does a very good job of keeping saves. I am going to plug for OSR, I used Heap 2 and it fixed alot of my crashing problems.
I know that you can disable the Faked First Person in UV by editing the ini file.
Have you tried to regenerate your ini settings by renaming the file called Oblivion in Documents\My Games\Oblivion to Backup and restarting your game? I will try and add to this post later, You should be able to undo all of the changes made by DR6 without too much trouble.
EDIT have you cleaned ot the kf files in Meshes\Characters\_male, You can leave the kf files in folders alone, they usually belong to a single esp. You may need to reinstall the kf files needed by DR5 and UV.

I'm still having random CTD's, mainly in the imperial city.

I tried uninstalling oblivion alive in hopes that would solve the ctds, but no success.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:13 pm

Every mod that adds moving things to your game can lead to reduced FPS in game,and CTD's. Loose some of the mods like # 52 zCats & Rats and # 53 OOO Waterfish. If the crashes are in the Waterfront, this is known bad spot in the game.
When you remove or change a mod that adds animals and more people to the game you need to wait in a player owned home or the testinghall for three days to allow the game to reset itself.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:32 pm

Still having many ctds... now its to the point where I'm at the imperial prison and ctd on load.

I did get a CTD after feeding on a guard once in unholy darkness.

the feed through dialogue "give me your blood!"

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:38 pm

Still having many ctds... now its to the point where I'm at the imperial prison and ctd on load.

I did get a CTD after feeding on a guard once in unholy darkness.

the feed through dialogue "give me your blood!"

i've basically been trying to play oblivion for the past 4 days and progress very slowly, because I can only play about 1 min before I run into a CTD... I ctd on sleep, and mainly things associated with the unholy vampire mod.

Are there any logs i can post to see what is causing all of this madness.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:22 pm

Your current Load Order is part of your problem,I have no idea what changes you have made to it since April 1.
The reason most people say update your mods in replies is because an updated esp can fix a known issue with a mod.
I could post my Load Order and somone with a newer multi-core processor and eight Gigabytes of memory might laugh and call it pathetic, but I know if I run my current Load Order without disabling some uneccessary background processes and using Utilities like Streamline and various OBSE plugins, it will cause my laptop to CTD every half hour. I still get a CTD occasionally, but it is random and I can play for a few hours before a CTD will occur.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:11 am

I've used tes4edit to clean various mods, mostly the ones BOSS suggested and I cleaned the vampire mod as well.

I've been using gamebooster lately to close unnecessary processes, i'm still getting a ctd.

I simply loaded a save game and stood there doing nothing, just to see how long my game would run w/o CTD, and it was about 2 minutes, this was in the imperial prison district.

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» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:14 am

I hate to suggest this, but try and cut back to a basic FCOM installation and then begin adding mods again. Did you keep the originals after you cleaned the mods? You might have cleaned out a necessary part of a mod accidentally.
I do understand what a dirty mod can cause, and lately I have only added mods that are made by people who clean them before they release thier mods, and if I can get PyFFIed meshes to replace the meshes in a mod I do use, I will download and install them instead of the originals.
You really should get the Oblivion WarCry version 1.09 from the FCOM release thread.I am sorry it takes me so long to post, but I do not like to make stupid mistakes that could cause you to screw up your game. I just hope you can get a fairly stable mod setup, so you can enjoy playing this game.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:40 am

I've used tes4edit to clean various mods

Only asking, but you've not cleaned any FCOM files or it's supported plug-ins have you?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:58 am

I hate to suggest this, but try and cut back to a basic FCOM installation and then begin adding mods again. Did you keep the originals after you cleaned the mods? You might have cleaned out a necessary part of a mod accidentally.
I do understand what a dirty mod can cause, and lately I have only added mods that are made by people who clean them before they release thier mods, and if I can get PyFFIed meshes to replace the meshes in a mod I do use, I will download and install them instead of the originals.
You really should get the Oblivion WarCry version 1.09 from the FCOM release thread.I am sorry it takes me so long to post, but I do not like to make stupid mistakes that could cause you to screw up your game. I just hope you can get a fairly stable mod setup, so you can enjoy playing this game.

I sincerely appreciate all the help you've given me so far, thanks!

Only asking, but you've not cleaned any FCOM files or it's supported plug-ins have you?

Nope, even though boss recommended cleaning fcom_bobsarmory