Pre-Main Menu Freeze : IV

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:27 pm

Game freezes during the first loading screen, the one prior to the main menu. :/ Any help is greatly appreciated

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Active Mod Files:?  00 Oblivion.esm ?  01 underdark.esm ?  02 MathFunctions.esm ?  03 You Are Here.esm ?  04 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3] ?  05 MD_Saddle_Master.esm ?  06 CLS-ClassyClothes.esm ?  07 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] ?  08 TamRes.esm ?  09 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] ?  0A Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm ?  0B Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm ?  0C CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm ?  0D TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] ?  0E Kvatch Rebuilt.esm ?  0F Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5] ?  10 A_Bloody_Mess.esm ?  11 CURP_Controller.esm ?  12 VVAdvanced.esm [Version 1.00] ?  13 CLS-Craftybits.esm ?  14 CM Partners.esm ?  15 Toaster Says Share v3.esm ?  16 Lineage II Elves.esm ?  17 HorseCombatMaster.esm ?  18 UnnecessaryViolence.esm ?  19 ScreenEffects.esm ?  1A TRoN.esp ?  1B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5] ?  1C DLCShiveringIsles.esp ?  1D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2] ?  1E Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  1F TamRes.esp ?  20 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3] ?  21 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3] ?  22 AmbientTownSounds.esp ?  23 Storms & Sound.esp ?  24 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3] ?  25 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.2] ?  26 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp ?  27 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp ?  ++ shiveringislesdoorusable.esp ?  28 Terran Vampires Beta.esp [Version 1.31] ?  29 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] ?  2A C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp ?  2B DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] ?  2C ScreenControls.esp ?  2D DLCHorseArmor.esp ?  2E Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp ?  2F Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp ?  30 DMRangerArmor.esp ?  31 Hel Borne Spear Set.esp ?  32 Heron Mark Swords 1.0.esp ?  33 JBladesVol2.esp ?  34 Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp ?  ++ RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp ?  35 RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp ?  36 Shdw_Armor pack02.esp ?  37 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2] ?  38 Thieves Arsenal.esp ?  39 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] ?  3A Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ?  ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ?  3B VVAdvanced.esp [Version 1.00] ?  3C VVAdvanced-SI.esp [Version 1.00] ?  3D CB-Cobl-VVA Glue.esp ?  3E Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ?  3F Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] ?  40 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp ?  41 CNRP FightersGuild.esp [Version 1.0] ?  42 Wearable GS and DS armor for OOO.esp [Version 0.1] ?  43 Suliin V1.2.esp ?  44 KnightlyArmory.esp ?  45 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.5] ?  46 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp ?  47 BladeSong.esp ?  48 FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp ?  49 SRGottshaw0.9 Beta.esp ?  4A HanstHolm village.esp ?  4B ICEXPAND.esp [Version 1.5BCE] ?  4C JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp ?  4D KTVH - Walking In The Shoes.esp ?  4E KvatchRising.esp ?  4F bladesfactionmod.esp ?  50 LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5] ?  51 Malevolent.esp ?  52 Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp ?  53 Pinevale.esp ?  54 Raiders of Cyrodil.esp ?  55 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4] ?  56 TheElderCouncil.esp ?  57 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp ?  58 Verwen Brewery.esp [Version wen.] ?  59 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4] ?  5A Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp ?  5B Knights.esp ?  5C GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp [Version 1.02] ?  5D Blood&Mud.esp ?  5E Weye.esp ?  5F ShezriesTownsMaster.esp ?  60 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp ?  61 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ?  62 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.1] ?  63 Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp [Version 2.0] ?  64 StalhrimVillage.esp ?  65 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  66 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  67 xulTheHeath.esp ?  68 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  69 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] ?  6A xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  6B xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] ?  6C xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] ?  6D xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] ?  6E xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] ?  6F xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] ?  70 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] ?  71 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] ?  72 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] ?  73 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] ?  74 xulPantherRiver.esp ?  75 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  76 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  77 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5] ?  78 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  79 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  7A xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  7B xulSkingradOutskirts.esp ?  7C xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0] ?  7D ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp ?  7E Fort Akatosh Redux.esp ?  ++ Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp ?  7F LilyvaleULcompatibility.esp ?  80 Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp ?  81 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp ?  82 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp ?  83 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.0] ?  84 RenCorpseMod.esp ?  85 sixlivion.esp ?  ++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp ?  86 vn_goldweight.esp ?  87 X-Skills.esp ?  88 CLS-Craftybits.esp ?  89 CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp ?  ++ Border Removal.esp ?  8A Shadow Ranger.esp [Version 2.9.1] ?  8B Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp ?  8C Vim_and_Vigor_Alcohol.esp [Version amps] ?  8D Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp [Version y] ?  8E MidasSpells.esp ?  8F RenGuardOverhaul.esp ?  90 realArchery_eng.esp ?  91 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp ?  92 CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp ?  93 RealisticLeveling.esp ?  94 SP1stPLegs.esp ?  ? ? Dark Dungeons.esp [Version 1.0] ?  95 CM Partners.esp ?  96 Lineage II Elves.esp ?  97 Elves Of Lineage II.esp ?  98 IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp ?  99 DKImperials.esp ?  9A Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp ?  9B CM Partners Special NPCs.esp ?  9C CM Partners NPC.esp ?  9D CM Partners More NPCs.esp ?  9E CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp ?  9F CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp ?  A0 A CM Partner - Sah.esp ?  A1 Companion Postal Service.esp ?  A2 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.0] ?  A3 1em_Vilja_as_High_Imperial.esp ?  A4 GGValeria2_0.esp ?  A5 Saerileth.esp ?  A6 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  A7 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  A8 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  A9 BCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp ?  AA Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  AB Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  AC Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  AD Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  AE Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1] ?  AF Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.9.1] ?  B0 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  B1 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] ?  B2 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ?  B3 StokerWolff.esp ?  B4 Viconia.esp ?  B5 Bashed Patch, 0.esp ?  B6 Gondorian Ranger.esp ?  B7 CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:51 am

did you boss your lo? What mod introduced the problem?

edit: isn't screeneffects.esm loading last suspicious? what do you guys think?

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:07 pm

What's the last thing you installed before this started happening?
Are you sure you're not missing a master? Did you install any UI mods, like Darn? If so, did you update your .ini with the new fonts and add the new fonts folder?
If not, you could always try deleting your .ini file from C:\(User Name)\My Documents\My Games\Oblivion and let the game generate a new one.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:20 am

What's the last thing you installed before this started happening?
Are you sure you're not missing a master? Did you install any UI mods, like Darn? If so, did you update your .ini with the new fonts and add the new fonts folder?
If not, you could always try deleting your .ini file from C:\(User Name)\My Documents\My Games\Oblivion and let the game generate a new one.

Actually I've been getting rid of mods, no UI mods. I deleted the INI, which made it so I could get past the opening credits. still no dice, and it is bossed.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:13 pm

Do you read your BOSS log? It has a bunch of info and notes about what could be conflicting. Try its recommendations before you try other things...

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:30 pm

Possibly a stupid question, but what kind of freeze/how long did you wait?? Mine takes a while to get past that menu too.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:34 pm

Possibly a stupid question, but what kind of freeze/how long did you wait?? Mine takes a while to get past that menu too.

Last I tried, I got it to the load screen, left ate lunch, showered, went and got the mail, took out the trash and a few other things, totalling up to about half an hour and it just sat in the same spot. I have been reading the boss log. I did circumvent this finally, I loaded the masters for a save game, now I can get into the game and play, however when I try to sleep, it still crashes

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Active Mod Files:?  00 Oblivion.esm ?  01 ScreenEffects.esm ?  02 underdark.esm ?  03 MathFunctions.esm ?  04 You Are Here.esm ?  05 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3] ?  06 MD_Saddle_Master.esm ?  07 CLS-ClassyClothes.esm ?  08 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] ?  09 TamRes.esm ?  0A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] ?  0B Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm ?  0C Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm ?  0D CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm ?  0E TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] ?  0F Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5] ?  10 A_Bloody_Mess.esm ?  11 CURP_Controller.esm ?  12 VVAdvanced.esm [Version 1.00] ?  13 CLS-Craftybits.esm ?  14 CM Partners.esm ?  15 Toaster Says Share v3.esm ?  16 Lineage II Elves.esm ?  17 HorseCombatMaster.esm ?  18 UnnecessaryViolence.esm ?  19 TRoN.esp ?  1A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5] ?  1B DLCShiveringIsles.esp ?  1C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2] ?  1D Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  1E TamRes.esp ?  1F All Natural.esp [Version 1.3] ?  20 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3] ?  21 Immersive Interiors.esp ?  22 AmbientTownSounds.esp ?  23 PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp ?  24 Storms & Sound.esp ?  25 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3] ?  26 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.2] ?  27 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp ?  28 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp ?  29 Packhorses v1.esp ?  2A Player Hunters Fame and Infamy - Normal.esp ?  ++ shiveringislesdoorusable.esp ?  2B WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1] ?  2C Terran Vampires Beta.esp [Version 1.31] ?  2D Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] ?  2E C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp ?  2F DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] ?  30 Get Wet v0.92.esp ?  31 ScreenControls.esp ?  32 DLCHorseArmor.esp ?  33 Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp ?  34 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp ?  35 DMRangerArmor.esp ?  36 Hel Borne Spear Set.esp ?  37 Heron Mark Swords 1.0.esp ?  38 JBladesVol2.esp ?  39 M&BAxes.esp ?  3A Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp ?  ++ RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp ?  3B RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp ?  3C SentientWeapon.esp [Version 3] ?  3D Shdw_Armor pack02.esp ?  3E XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2] ?  3F Thieves Arsenal.esp ?  40 Shadow Steed.esp ?  41 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] ?  42 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ?  ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ?  43 VVAdvanced.esp [Version 1.00] ?  44 VVAdvanced-SI.esp [Version 1.00] ?  45 CB-Cobl-VVA Glue.esp ?  46 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp ?  47 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ?  48 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] ?  49 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp ?  4A CNRP FightersGuild.esp [Version 1.0] ?  4B Wearable GS and DS armor for OOO.esp [Version 0.1] ?  4C Suliin V1.2.esp ?  4D KnightlyArmory.esp ?  4E Ivellon.esp [Version 1.5] ?  4F 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp ?  50 Barbada_Island.esp ?  51 BladeSong.esp ?  52 (DC) County Sutch - New Haven.esp ?  53 FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp ?  54 SRGottshaw0.9 Beta.esp ?  55 HanstHolm village.esp ?  56 ICEXPAND.esp [Version 1.5BCE] ?  57 JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp ?  58 KTVH - Walking In The Shoes.esp ?  ++ 300 Feudal Empire.esp ?  59 KvatchRising.esp ?  5A bladesfactionmod.esp ?  5B LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5] ?  5C Malevolent.esp ?  5D Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp ?  5E Pinevale.esp ?  5F Raiders of Cyrodil.esp ?  60 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4] ?  61 TheElderCouncil.esp ?  62 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp ?  63 To Feed an Empire - Wickmere Farm.esp ?  64 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp ?  65 Verwen Brewery.esp [Version wen.] ?  66 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4] ?  67 Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp ?  68 za_bankmod.esp ?  69 Knights.esp ?  6A GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp [Version 1.02] ?  6B Blood&Mud.esp ?  6C Weye.esp ?  6D Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp ?  6E ShezriesTownsMaster.esp ?  6F Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp ?  70 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ?  71 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.1] ?  72 Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp [Version 2.0] ?  73 StalhrimVillage.esp ?  74 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  75 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  76 xulTheHeath.esp ?  77 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  78 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] ?  79 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  7A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] ?  7B xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] ?  7C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] ?  7D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] ?  7E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] ?  7F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] ?  80 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] ?  81 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] ?  82 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] ?  83 xulPantherRiver.esp ?  84 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  85 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  86 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5] ?  87 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  88 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  89 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  8A xulSkingradOutskirts.esp ?  8B xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0] ?  8C ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp ?  8D Fort Akatosh Redux.esp ?  ++ Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp ?  8E LilyvaleULcompatibility.esp ?  8F Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp ?  90 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp ?  91 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp ?  92 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.0] ?  93 RenCorpseMod.esp ?  ++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp ?  94 vn_goldweight.esp ?  95 X-Skills.esp ?  96 CLS-Craftybits.esp ?  97 CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp ?  98 Shadow Ranger.esp [Version 2.9.1] ?  99 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp ?  9A Vim_and_Vigor_Alcohol.esp [Version amps] ?  9B Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp [Version y] ?  9C MidasSpells.esp ?  9D RenGuardOverhaul.esp ?  9E realArchery_eng.esp ?  9F Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp ?  A0 CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp ?  A1 RealisticLeveling.esp ?  A2 SP1stPLegs.esp ?  ? ? Dark Dungeons.esp [Version 1.0] ?  A3 CM Partners.esp ?  A4 Elves Of Lineage II.esp ?  A5 Lineage II Elves.esp ?  A6 IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp ?  A7 DKImperials.esp ?  A8 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp ?  A9 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp ?  AA CM Partners NPC.esp ?  AB CM Partners More NPCs.esp ?  AC CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp ?  AD CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp ?  AE A CM Partner - Sah.esp ?  AF Companion Postal Service.esp ?  B0 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.0] ?  B1 Arren.esp ?  B2 GGValeria2_0.esp ?  B3 Saerileth.esp ?  B4 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.5EV-D] ?  B5 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ?  B6 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] ?  B7 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D] ?  B8 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.9] ?  ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] ?  B9 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BA Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  BB Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BC BCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp ?  BD Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BE Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BF Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  C0 Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  C1 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1] ?  C2 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.9.1] ?  C3 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  C4 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] ?  C5 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ?  C6 StokerWolff.esp ?  C7 Viconia.esp ?  C8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp ?  C9 Gondorian Ranger.esp ?  CA SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.esp ?  CB CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:11 am

Last I tried, I got it to the load screen, left ate lunch, showered, went and got the mail, took out the trash and a few other things, totalling up to about half an hour and it just sat in the same spot. I have been reading the boss log. I did circumvent this finally, I loaded the masters for a save game, now I can get into the game and play, however when I try to sleep, it still crashes

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:?  00 Oblivion.esm ?  01 ScreenEffects.esm ?  02 underdark.esm ?  03 MathFunctions.esm ?  04 You Are Here.esm ?  05 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3] ?  06 MD_Saddle_Master.esm ?  07 CLS-ClassyClothes.esm ?  08 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] ?  09 TamRes.esm ?  0A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] ?  0B Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm ?  0C Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm ?  0D CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm ?  0E TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] ?  0F Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5] ?  10 A_Bloody_Mess.esm ?  11 CURP_Controller.esm ?  12 VVAdvanced.esm [Version 1.00] ?  13 CLS-Craftybits.esm ?  14 CM Partners.esm ?  15 Toaster Says Share v3.esm ?  16 Lineage II Elves.esm ?  17 HorseCombatMaster.esm ?  18 UnnecessaryViolence.esm ?  19 TRoN.esp ?  1A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5] ?  1B DLCShiveringIsles.esp ?  1C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2] ?  1D Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  1E TamRes.esp ?  1F All Natural.esp [Version 1.3] ?  20 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3] ?  21 Immersive Interiors.esp ?  22 AmbientTownSounds.esp ?  23 PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp ?  24 Storms & Sound.esp ?  25 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3] ?  26 AmbientDungeons.esp [Version 1.2] ?  27 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp ?  28 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp ?  29 Packhorses v1.esp ?  2A Player Hunters Fame and Infamy - Normal.esp ?  ++ shiveringislesdoorusable.esp ?  2B WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1] ?  2C Terran Vampires Beta.esp [Version 1.31] ?  2D Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02] ?  2E C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp ?  2F DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] ?  30 Get Wet v0.92.esp ?  31 ScreenControls.esp ?  32 DLCHorseArmor.esp ?  33 Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp ?  34 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp ?  35 DMRangerArmor.esp ?  36 Hel Borne Spear Set.esp ?  37 Heron Mark Swords 1.0.esp ?  38 JBladesVol2.esp ?  39 M&BAxes.esp ?  3A Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp ?  ++ RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp ?  3B RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp ?  3C SentientWeapon.esp [Version 3] ?  3D Shdw_Armor pack02.esp ?  3E XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2] ?  3F Thieves Arsenal.esp ?  40 Shadow Steed.esp ?  41 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] ?  42 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ?  ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ?  43 VVAdvanced.esp [Version 1.00] ?  44 VVAdvanced-SI.esp [Version 1.00] ?  45 CB-Cobl-VVA Glue.esp ?  46 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp ?  47 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ?  48 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] ?  49 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp ?  4A CNRP FightersGuild.esp [Version 1.0] ?  4B Wearable GS and DS armor for OOO.esp [Version 0.1] ?  4C Suliin V1.2.esp ?  4D KnightlyArmory.esp ?  4E Ivellon.esp [Version 1.5] ?  4F 00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp ?  50 Barbada_Island.esp ?  51 BladeSong.esp ?  52 (DC) County Sutch - New Haven.esp ?  53 FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp ?  54 SRGottshaw0.9 Beta.esp ?  55 HanstHolm village.esp ?  56 ICEXPAND.esp [Version 1.5BCE] ?  57 JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp ?  58 KTVH - Walking In The Shoes.esp ?  ++ 300 Feudal Empire.esp ?  59 KvatchRising.esp ?  5A bladesfactionmod.esp ?  5B LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5] ?  5C Malevolent.esp ?  5D Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp ?  5E Pinevale.esp ?  5F Raiders of Cyrodil.esp ?  60 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4] ?  61 TheElderCouncil.esp ?  62 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp ?  63 To Feed an Empire - Wickmere Farm.esp ?  64 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp ?  65 Verwen Brewery.esp [Version wen.] ?  66 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4] ?  67 Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp ?  68 za_bankmod.esp ?  69 Knights.esp ?  6A GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp [Version 1.02] ?  6B Blood&Mud.esp ?  6C Weye.esp ?  6D Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp ?  6E ShezriesTownsMaster.esp ?  6F Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp ?  70 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ?  71 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.1] ?  72 Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp [Version 2.0] ?  73 StalhrimVillage.esp ?  74 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] ?  75 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  76 xulTheHeath.esp ?  77 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] ?  78 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] ?  79 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ?  7A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] ?  7B xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] ?  7C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] ?  7D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] ?  7E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] ?  7F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] ?  80 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] ?  81 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] ?  82 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] ?  83 xulPantherRiver.esp ?  84 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  85 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  86 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5] ?  87 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4] ?  88 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] ?  89 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ?  8A xulSkingradOutskirts.esp ?  8B xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0] ?  8C ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp ?  8D Fort Akatosh Redux.esp ?  ++ Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp ?  8E LilyvaleULcompatibility.esp ?  8F Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp ?  90 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp ?  91 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp ?  92 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.0] ?  93 RenCorpseMod.esp ?  ++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp ?  94 vn_goldweight.esp ?  95 X-Skills.esp ?  96 CLS-Craftybits.esp ?  97 CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp ?  98 Shadow Ranger.esp [Version 2.9.1] ?  99 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp ?  9A Vim_and_Vigor_Alcohol.esp [Version amps] ?  9B Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp [Version y] ?  9C MidasSpells.esp ?  9D RenGuardOverhaul.esp ?  9E realArchery_eng.esp ?  9F Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp ?  A0 CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp ?  A1 RealisticLeveling.esp ?  A2 SP1stPLegs.esp ?  ? ? Dark Dungeons.esp [Version 1.0] ?  A3 CM Partners.esp ?  A4 Elves Of Lineage II.esp ?  A5 Lineage II Elves.esp ?  A6 IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp ?  A7 DKImperials.esp ?  A8 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp ?  A9 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp ?  AA CM Partners NPC.esp ?  AB CM Partners More NPCs.esp ?  AC CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp ?  AD CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp ?  AE A CM Partner - Sah.esp ?  AF Companion Postal Service.esp ?  B0 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 2.0] ?  B1 Arren.esp ?  B2 GGValeria2_0.esp ?  B3 Saerileth.esp ?  B4 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.5EV-D] ?  B5 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ?  B6 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] ?  B7 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D] ?  B8 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.9] ?  ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] ?  B9 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BA Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0] ?  BB Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BC BCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.esp ?  BD Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BE Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5] ?  BF Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  C0 Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  C1 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1] ?  C2 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.9.1] ?  C3 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 4.8.4] ?  C4 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] ?  C5 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ?  C6 StokerWolff.esp ?  C7 Viconia.esp ?  C8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp ?  C9 Gondorian Ranger.esp ?  CA SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.esp ?  CB CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

Try it on a new game with the same mods installed and see if you can sleep then?? Or try a different save?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:42 am

Try it on a new game with the same mods installed and see if you can sleep then?? Or try a different save?

New game same thing :/

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:12 am

when I try to sleep, it still crashes

That sounds as though you have left overs from a leveling mod that you've removed, which in turn has altered the level up menu.
It's always a good idea to convert your mods to either OMOD ar BAIN and install through that process. This ensures the removal of all debris when you decide to remove a mod.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:45 am

@To the OP: You can still remove that mod cleanly by downloading it again, making an OMOD/BAIN package out of it, installing the mod through OBMM/BAIN, and then uninstalling via OBMM/BAIN.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:25 am

@To the OP: You can still remove that mod cleanly by downloading it again, making an OMOD/BAIN package out of it, installing the mod through OBMM/BAIN, and then uninstalling via OBMM/BAIN.

I've only ever run one Leveling mod, and it is still active.

Edit: It's realistic leveling, I went to upgrade it, and now I'm back to square one frozen loading screen.

Edit again: K got passed the loading screen the same way as before, now I'm just getting crashes really often

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:15 am

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  MathFunctions.esm03  You Are Here.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]05  MD_Saddle_Master.esm06  CLS-ClassyClothes.esm07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]08  TamRes.esm09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0B  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0C  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0D  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]0E  A_Bloody_Mess.esm0F  CURP_Controller.esm10  CLS-Craftybits.esm11  CM Partners.esm12  Toaster Says Share v3.esm13  Lineage II Elves.esm14  HorseCombatMaster.esm15  UnnecessaryViolence.esm16  ScreenEffects.esm17  TRoN.esp18  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]19  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]1B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]1C  TamRes.esp1D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]1E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]1F  Immersive Interiors.esp20  AmbientTownSounds.esp21  PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp22  Storms & Sound.esp23  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]24  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp25  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp26  Player Hunters Fame and Infamy - Normal.esp++  shiveringislesdoorusable.esp27  FF_Real_Thirst.esp28  Terran Vampires Beta.esp  [Version 1.31]29  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]2A  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp2B  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]2C  ScreenControls.esp2D  DLCHorseArmor.esp2E  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp2F  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp30  DMRangerArmor.esp31  Hel Borne Spear Set.esp32  Heron Mark Swords 1.0.esp33  JBladesVol2.esp34  M&BAxes.esp35  Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp36  RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp37  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]38  Shdw_Armor pack02.esp39  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]3A  Shadow Steed.esp3B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]3C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]3D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp3E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]3F  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]40  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp41  CNRP FightersGuild.esp  [Version 1.0]42  Wearable GS and DS armor for OOO.esp  [Version 0.1]43  Suliin V1.2.esp44  KnightlyArmory.esp45  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.5]46  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp47  Barbada_Island.esp48  BladeSong.esp49  (DC) County Sutch - New Haven.esp4A  FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp4B  SRGottshaw0.9 Beta.esp4C  HanstHolm village.esp4D  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 1.5BCE]4E  JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp4F  KTVH - Walking In The Shoes.esp++  300 Feudal Empire.esp50  KvatchRising.esp51  bladesfactionmod.esp52  LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp  [Version 2.5]53  Malevolent.esp54  Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp55  Pinevale.esp56  Raiders of Cyrodil.esp57  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]58  TheElderCouncil.esp59  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp5A  To Feed an Empire - Wickmere Farm.esp5B  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp5C  Verwen Brewery.esp  [Version wen.]5D  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]5E  Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp5F  za_bankmod.esp60  Knights.esp61  GuardsofCyrodiilRedux.esp  [Version 1.02]62  Blood&Mud.esp63  Weye.esp64  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp65  ShezriesTownsMaster.esp66  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp67  ElsweyrAnequina.esp68  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.1]69  Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]6A  StalhrimVillage.esp6B  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]6C  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]6D  xulTheHeath.esp6E  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]6F  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]70  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]71  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]72  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]73  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]74  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]75  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]76  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]77  Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]78  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]79  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]7A  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]7B  xulPantherRiver.esp7C  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7D  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7E  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]7F  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]80  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]81  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]82  Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]83  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp84  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]85  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp86  Fort Akatosh Redux.esp++  Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp87  LilyvaleULcompatibility.esp88  Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp89  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp8A  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp8B  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.0]8C  RenCorpseMod.esp++  ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp8D  vn_goldweight.esp8E  X-Skills.esp8F  CLS-Craftybits.esp90  CLS-CB-Cobl.esp91  CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp92  Shadow Ranger.esp  [Version 2.9.1]93  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp94  Duke Patricks - Nosferatu Class Vampires.esp  [Version y]95  MidasSpells.esp96  RenGuardOverhaul.esp97  realArchery_eng.esp98  CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.esp99  SP1stPLegs.esp**  Dark Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.0]9A  CM Partners.esp9B  Lineage II Elves.esp9C  Elves Of Lineage II.esp9D  IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp9E  DKImperials.esp9F  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.espA0  CM Partners Special NPCs.espA1  CM Partners NPC.espA2  CM Partners More NPCs.espA3  CM Partners Marker NPCs.espA4  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espA5  A CM Partner - Sah.espA6  Companion Postal Service.espA7  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.0]A8  Arren.espA9  GGValeria2_0.espAA  Saerileth.espAB  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]AC  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]AD  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]AE  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]AF  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.9]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]B0  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.5]B1  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]B2  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5]B3  BCBravilB&M-Barrowfields patch.espB4  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]B5  Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]B6  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]B7  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp  [Version 4.8.4]B8  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]B9  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.9.1]BA  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.8.4]BB  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]BC  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]BD  StokerWolff.espBE  Viconia.espBF  Bashed Patch, 0.espC0  CB-FFRT-Cobl_Glue.espC1  Gondorian Ranger.espC2  SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.espC3  CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

Sorry for the dbl post but I didn't feel justified making a second topic for the same issues, the game is working, just for brief spurts...Crashes pretty often. :/

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:19 am

As a rule, no mods should be placed after bashed patch unless the mod author specifically states so. So reorder the following (report them in the BOSS thread as unknown mod files if BOSS doesn't know about them):

C0  CB-FFRT-Cobl_Glue.espC1  Gondorian Ranger.espC2  SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.espC3  CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

There are many mods in your LO that I've never heard of. Do you rebuild your bashed patch everytime after intalling/uninstalling new mods?

I see some outdated mods (Vilja 3.0 is out, and you are still using v 2.0).
Similarly, I see many mods (DC Sutch) require patches with ULs - check Nexus for the UL patches page and see if mods you have have a patch for it.

In know that you are not reading your BOSS log, else you'd have know that
5F za_bankmod.esp
is already included in Better Cities.

Not sure if
8E X-Skills.esp
is up-to-date. It can't be found on Nexus and IIRC kyoma mentioned it having issues.

In summary, there are a bunch of mods that you haven't updated/checked and could be the source of your problems. The best advice that you'll get is:
1) Update BOSS masterlist, run BOSS, read your BOSS log, and make changes.
2) Cut down your mod list severely. This will help you identify problems. Don't insall mods on a binge. Do it one at a time, check and make sure game works. Read the 50 steps to a stable FCOM++ thread for a modus operandi.
3) Load a previous savegame that did not have crashing issues. Sometimes crashes happen more if one continues with a particular save.
4) Use OBMM/Wrye Bash to install mods. There is no excuse for not learning these 2 methods if you want to play with more than 10 mods active.
5) Read the basics http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=complete_installation_guide: Frankly, I suggest starting from scratch using the best practices mentioned in that guide. Uninstall Oblivion, and reinstal it properly. Or you'll have a frustrating time troubleshooting every 2 minutes - I know, I've been in your shoes too.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:00 am

As a rule, no mods should be placed after bashed patch unless the mod author specifically states so. So reorder the following (report them in the BOSS thread as unknown mod files if BOSS doesn't know about them):

C0  CB-FFRT-Cobl_Glue.espC1  Gondorian Ranger.espC2  SPARTAN VI's Diverse City Guards for OOO.espC3  CottageInColoviaV1.5.esp

There are many mods in your LO that I've never heard of. Do you rebuild your bashed patch everytime after intalling/uninstalling new mods?

I see some outdated mods (Vilja 3.0 is out, and you are still using v 2.0).
Similarly, I see many mods (DC Sutch) require patches with ULs - check Nexus for the UL patches page and see if mods you have have a patch for it.

In know that you are not reading your BOSS log, else you'd have know that
5F za_bankmod.esp
is already included in Better Cities.

Not sure if
8E X-Skills.esp
is up-to-date. It can't be found on Nexus and IIRC kyoma mentioned it having issues.

In summary, there are a bunch of mods that you haven't updated/checked and could be the source of your problems. The best advice that you'll get is:
1) Update BOSS masterlist, run BOSS, read your BOSS log, and make changes.
2) Cut down your mod list severely. This will help you identify problems. Don't insall mods on a binge. Do it one at a time, check and make sure game works. Read the 50 steps to a stable FCOM++ thread for a modus operandi.
3) Load a previous savegame that did not have crashing issues. Sometimes crashes happen more if one continues with a particular save.
4) Use OBMM/Wrye Bash to install mods. There is no excuse for not learning these 2 methods if you want to play with more than 10 mods active.
5) Read the basics http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=complete_installation_guide: Frankly, I suggest starting from scratch using the best practices mentioned in that guide. Uninstall Oblivion, and reinstal it properly. Or you'll have a frustrating time troubleshooting every 2 minutes - I know, I've been in your shoes too.

Boss says nothing about The bank being included in Better Cities, it say's that there is a replacer mod of some sort. BOSS is updated, and has been run, the only things it mentions at this point are TAG recs. I'm using a new game, it's like the third one I've made...I use Wrye to install any of the major mods, I'm not using FCOM any longer hence all the FCOM Components with the exception of OOO are out. just ghosted

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:03 pm

Just uninstall the FCOM components rather than unchecking them, through Wrye Bash.

Uninstall the za_bankmod - the replacer note in BOSS indicates that it is already included in Better Cities.

If you are using Wrye Bash to install (good for you), just start uninstalling a bunch of non-essential mods and see if the game gets any stable. Also, did you try my other suggestions (#3 specifically)? If you are starting a new game, better get the updated versions of mods before you make any progress.

When you get crashes, are they random or in the same location? Do you use QTP3 - and do you have the ideal hardware (GPU) to run it? Remove this if your hardware is not good enough - this would reduce your performance:
B1 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]

Did you update Vilja? Get patches for the UL mods? Also, how about removing Xskills etc. and checking for updates of other mods? Do it before you try again.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:32 am

For anithinks, X-skills is a completely optional part of Craftybits, I am not sure if the people working on CLS-Craftybits ever got the X-skills to work right. For Seamus Finnegan, follow anithinks advice, remember to read the readme for OOO, this mod incorporates weapons from Addonay, so you may be wasting extra esp slots by having 2E and 2F in your Load Order.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:49 am

OOO, this mod incorporates weapons from Addonay, so you may be wasting extra esp slots by having 2E and 2F in your Load Order.

It's only Adonnays' models that are used as part of OOO (and Frans).
The scripted versions of the weapons would indeed need the separtate versions of the mods.

@Seamus, a good strarting point is the Unofficial patch(s) plus Oscuro's.
First get comfortable with that. Ensure to read the extended PDF that comes with the OOO download as the mod contains numerous bundled mods.
If your rig is capable of running OOO - which is pretty script heavy - the next logical step would be adding MMM when your ready.
This combo works and plays exceptionally well together.

Most of us have been where your at right now, trying to build a large mod list from the outset.
Most of the time this doesn't work as if an issue occurs troubleshooting is difficult, sometimes to the point of a re-installation of the game plus mods.
Add a couple at a time, testing until your satisfied there isn't a problem. Rinse and repeat.
I must have started perhaps a dozen avatrs before I finally settled on my mod list and game character.
You'll get there. But with patience.

Good luck.