Argonian Feet

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:50 am

Are there any mods out there other than the Scripted Feet and Argonian Beautification that add more lizard like feet to a vanilla body without so many requirements? I would really love to have such a mod. I have the Khajiit Foots mod that works perfectly without requirements and is easy to install, but the Argonian mods I've found are such a pain to get working and and seem messy. Any suggestions would be great.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:43 am

Are there any mods out there other than the Scripted Feet and Argonian Beautification that add more lizard like feet to a vanilla body without so many requirements? I would really love to have such a mod. I have the Khajiit Foots mod that works perfectly without requirements and is easy to install, but the Argonian mods I've found are such a pain to get working and and seem messy. Any suggestions would be great.


I don't know of any, and I'm regularly watching the scene for anything Argonian-related. I'm a fan of the beast races.
When I started those... messy... mods I was just a beginner in Oblivion modding, and I don't feel like anything more today either, although my skillset of course improved massively.
I was since then watching for anyone doing what I did far better than I was able to, but so far... nothing. It seems there's not much interest in the beast races and I know only a handful of modders who actively mod for them.

I won't go further into what's so messy about them, as I likely won't have time to do anything against it anyways right now, but I fail to see the trouble in the mods I'm providing "replacement" files for inevitably being required for things to work. A main part of AB is to make the most common mods for Argonians usable with more or less every body mod you can think of, as you know most of them restrict you to only a select pair of bodies.

But you are invited to give those 2 packages I just compiled in about 40 minutes after I read this topic a try and tell me if this is at least somewhat close to what you had in mind.
It's highly-inofficial support packages for Scripted Argonian Feet for male and female Vanilla bodies. They were compiled from the old NIFs found inside AB Vanilla packages currently available for download the way I so often described to others curious enough to attempt it themselves.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AOUJW89K, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K2LUS9NI

- For ease of installation and because there's nothing optional or any choice to make here, it's all packed so you can just extract them into your data folder and everything will be where it is supposed to be. (Can installation be any easier?)
- Be warned though that because the feet require a fitting texture, and this one might clash with the low-ql default textures, I included the body textures from AB Vanilla into each of these! (No requirements left this way for the meshes)
- Granted, you will still need the SAF plugin for these to work, but the latest release, v0.6b does no longer require anything else than a recent stable version of OBSE installed and running. (OBSE the only requirement for things to work)

Now, once your game started with SAF and you were greeted with the success message popup telling all arrays were initialized (basically only telling you that your OBSE is working properly), open your console and type in following line:
set ABraceQuest.noForce to 1

Now you practically disabled almost "all" functionality of SAF, limiting it to only equipping the Argonian Feet when no foot item is equipped. Should be quite close to the other mods of this kind I found so far.
Another common solution is to not allow foot items at all anymore. For this just "don't" type in the line above and leave everything at default. Items occupying more than 1 slot at once, like the DB Armor, are now also allowed to be worn by default, even if there is no fitting replacement NIF file present in your folders.

Tell me if this is somewhat close to what you had in mind.

And now I'm off working on my dragons again... another "mess" of mine. :ermm:
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:04 pm

Thank you for replying with the mod idea ill try it out, and I hope I didn't offend you at all with saying the mods were a bit messy, it wasn't my intention. You have very good ideas for modding and can do way better than I ever could. I'm only experienced with using basic "drop these folders here, and it works" kind of mods and have no idea how to use things like Wyre Bash and such so its confusing for me. I'll let you know how the new mods work out. Thank you. ^_^

Also, I feel stupid for having to ask this but what is SAF? No idea what that stands for. =/
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:17 am

Also, I feel stupid for having to ask this but what is SAF? No idea what that stands for. =/


SAF = Scripted Argonian Feet, isn't it?
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:05 am

That it does. Didn't think about that, thank you lol.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:11 am

I've got everything installed correctly, I think. All the NPC's have great looking feet, but my character has an entirely invisible lower body underneath the armor accept for her tail, how might I fix this?
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:01 pm

I've got everything installed correctly, I think. All the NPC's have great looking feet, but my character has an entirely invisible lower body underneath the armor accept for her tail, how might I fix this?


Hmm, that's weird. "underneath the armor", does that mean she's currently wearing greaves, pants or similar leg items? How does it look when not wearing any?
The meshes are perfectly fine Vanilla female legs, just bent a little for a more digitigrade appearance. The textures are all there and have the right names.
Even if it was finding an adapted NIF file for the armor she's wearing in your folders, using UFF meshes with Vanilla textures is not known to cause such issues.

If she's wearing a leg item which is not displaying, it's something with the item in question. If she doesn't have legs at all, even when nvde, there must be something wrong with the legs mesh and I'll have to check again more thoroughly. Though when I created those meshes for AB VanillaFemale back then, years ago, I was testing them all ingame myself before releasing them and they did show up. So I don't know.

edit: No offense taken, don't worry. It's not easy to offend or hurt me. I'm just watching the wording around online forums, and with expressions like "a pain to get working" and "messy" it sounded quite offensive, even though never intended that way.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:16 pm

Currently when my character is wearing any armor or clothes on the legs or feet everything shows up fine, but when I don't have anything equipped in those slots her body is invisible. Also, the message for the successful install did pop up in game if that helps at all.
By the comment on if being a pain to get working and being messy, I mostly was referring to a past experience with and older version Argonian Beautification when after having a bit of confusion and getting it installed properly I had a few problems with what I assume was mod conflicts. After deciding not to use that mod anymore the Scripted Argonian Feet looked kind of intimidating to try and install myself, not being the best with computers. So far it hasn't been hard at all though, thank you for the instructions. :)

I tried messing around and copied the Argonian feet back into their Data folders and it fixed the problem. ^_^ So apparently SAF needs to be installed first then the vanilla feet after or else they get over written. I can hardly notice any differences in the vanilla legs and the new lizard feet unless I look really close, its perfect. Thank you Drake :tongue:
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:03 pm

I tried messing around and copied the Argonian feet back into their Data folders and it fixed the problem. ^_^ So apparently SAF needs to be installed first then the vanilla feet after or else they get over written. I can hardly notice any differences in the vanilla legs and the new lizard feet unless I look really close, its perfect. Thank you Drake :tongue:


Uh, ok, that's mildly confusing again. v0.6b of SAF is only available as a seperate ESP-only download on the new dedicated SAF download page at the Nexus (I removed all SAF files from the AB page to stop people always confusing the two). Of course, if you first installed the packages I linked and then one of the older complete SAF packages (v0.5b), they inevitably replaced the Vanilla female meshes with ones for TFF. But as it's working now I guess it's not that important anymore to figure out what was wrong initially.

I'll see to get those meshes and textures for Vanilla bodies upgraded to the AB v3.0 standard and will then add the two packages I linked (after incorporating the upgrades) to the Base Body Meshes packages on the SAF page. Coming to think of it... then it's only Exnem/HGEC and Bab missing in SAF support... those and a whole lot of adapted NIF files for as many items and as many bodies as possible. :rolleyes:
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:03 pm

I actually downloaded the main file form Nexus that says version 0.6, so not sure whats up with that. A few of the leg armors and pants overlap with the feet I just noticed while playing around, mostly the ones that show the actual ankle like Iron Leggings and Sack Cloth Pants but it isn't a big deal. =P
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