Alright, I know that in Morrowind, everybody's favourite psychopath bound himself to the Heart of Lorkhan, in an attempt to make himself a god and do all other kinds of neat stuff. But, I've been thinking recently; would it be possible for somebody to do the same thing with one of the Aedra? Say, if somebody tried to bind themselves to the statue of Akatosh in the Imperial City? (What with the Martin/Amulet of Kings goodness that went into making it)

One thing that I can think of that may make a difference is that Lorkhan had his heart ripped out by Akatosh, so maybe that makes him a special case? In any case, I'd appreciate any insight that can be offered on this topic.

Thanks.

That sounds like a good question, if it's true that Martin became the new Stone there. I honestly dont' see why not; all you'd have to be, I think, is a Tonal Architect.

But at the same time, Lorkhan's Heart, the First Stone, was the Heart of the World, so that could be a special case, as Lorkhan himself is. I personally think not, but just on base knowledge and not lore, yet.

I dont' think you can literally bind yourself to an Earth Bone; I'm positive that they are the "intangible" laws of nature.

I don't think so, but I'm not quite sure. The Heart was the heart of NIRN and the heart of divinity. The other Aedra aren't as tangible. You can mantle the other Daedra though.

Should one adhere to the theory that Lorkhan and Akatosh are one and the same (see http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/sporedream.shtml), then binding to the Heart of Lorkhan is, in fact, binding to the Heart of an Aedric being as well.

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Muy interesante.

But could that be done through Martin's statue?

Not likely, I would think.

Meanwhile... think we can get some info on the Earthbones, Word Merchant?

I think we're already tied to gravity pretty well.

But I don't think such things as gravity and time have much mythic significance, as they are artificial constructions designed for Nirn and unknown to PSJJJ.

If it were possible to bind to another Aedra, wouldn't we need to actually get the still-living heart of an Aedra?

not really, the Aedra are wholly a part of Mundus as it is.

The concept seemed to work for Mankar Camoran binding himself to Mehrunes Dagon.

Mankar bound himself to the book...

The book of Mehrunes Dagon.

He bound himself to an Artifact. But we know that a mortal can bound themselves to a Daedra, but it doesn't make them gods. Umaril bound himself to Meridia.

Being an Artifact, the Xarxes might be considered the blood of Mehrunes Dagon. It doesn't make them gods, but it allowed Mankar to create his own realm, allowing his slain followers to come there as immortals, and it allowed Umaril to cheat death. Of course, Umaril was also half-divine anyway, so he was already as powerful as they come. Even if it doesn't create the same effect as binding oneself to the Heart.

The book is part of Dagon.

Like my toenail clippings are a part of me. It's not the same.

Exactly, it's not. Your clippings don't return when they're destroyed, but Daedric artefacts do get re-created because they are partially the sphere of . It's not same like in material world. The book is a material representation of a much bigger thing. Mortals perceive it as such.

Then why does my nails keep growing?

Exactly.

Alright, on a more serious note...

The Heart could be used because it was, well, just that, a heart. Still though, Kagrenac had to do his funky business and all that before he could touch it. So, trying to bind oneself to the Aedra, who are not sitting hearts and are more...sentient, for lack of a better word, doesn't make much sense. I get the feeling they wouldn't let you. Thus does mantling come in handy.

I don't think the Aedra can do anything at all. They are pretty much stuck unless someone acts in their name (I think the prophet says this, but I can't find a transcription of his only-spoken stuff so no source ).

Also, you're already bound with them anyhow, all mortals are bound to Nirn which is the combination of all the Aedra as far as I understand.

http://www.imperial-library.info/tsoo/kotn01a.shtml

By the way, it's the Aedra who are bound to the mortals. At least their imaginations. You could go so far as to say the mortals are all 'bound' to the Godhead but that's just semantics.