18+ (NEW) be nice this time! :P

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:47 am

The rating system is a joke anyway. Parents just buy whatever their kids want without checking so it doesnt really matter. Hell a lot of stores dont bother checking, there is no law (at least in the US) about it. Its mostly company policy for PR reasons.

Yeah that's complete BS it was released last week that games are the media with the least amount of underage sales so HA! :P
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:15 am

Mature should be the area that Beth aims for although I hope it's not completely over the top violence like Fallout 3. If it's more then Oblivion then I'll be happy.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:42 am

BLOOD, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Yeah, probably M for violence. Especially with the new finishing moves.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:18 pm

I don't care what the rating is. With modding, I will be able to make it as realistic as I want.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:50 am

Don't most of Bethesda's games get an M rating? Oblivion and Fallout 3 got that rating so this probably will as well since the level of violence in the game seems to be about the same.


Actually, Oblivion was rated T and was rerated as M after a scandal with modders but that was quite a while after the game came out.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:08 pm

18+ means more blood and brutality, something i think would fit the rest of the game. Since the game looks more badass than previous TES games :rock:
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:20 am

Actually, Oblivion was rated T and was rerated as M after a scandal with modders but that was quite a while after the game came out.

Sort of. That mod caused the esrb to take a second look at the game. They noticed a few things that changed their mind the second time through.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/op-ed/797-Boobies-Did-Not-Break-the-Game-The-ESRB-Clears-the-Air-On-Oblivion
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:15 am

Sort of. That mod caused the esrb to take a second look at the game. They noticed a few things that changed their mind the second time through.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/op-ed/797-Boobies-Did-Not-Break-the-Game-The-ESRB-Clears-the-Air-On-Oblivion


Yeah, supposedly things like burning corpses weren't in the original game they were shown (supposedly). Meant more along the lines because of a nudity mod made, the ESRB freaked out because modders were doing what they wanted (go figure, someone doing what they want and it's a problem :pinch:) and rechecked the game and boom, M rating. Not like it really mattered at that point plus that "scandal" might have actually sold more copies of Oblivion after that lol.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:21 pm

Haha. I'm 16, and I buy my own games. I usually need a parent to stand next to me when I buy it if the rating is too high. Its [censored] stupid.

My parents don't care what I play.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:09 am

Yeah, supposedly things like burning corpses weren't in the original game they were shown (supposedly). Meant more along the lines because of a nudity mod made, the ESRB freaked out because modders were doing what they wanted (go figure, someone doing what they want and it's a problem :pinch:) and rechecked the game and boom, M rating. Not like it really mattered at that point plus that "scandal" might have actually sold more copies of Oblivion after that lol.

While we were investigating that, we actually discovered far more blood and gore than had been disclosed, particularly in the Dark Brotherhood quest line. What Bethesda had originally disclosed to us, as an example: In that section of the game, there is a hanging corpse. What they disclosed to us was a hanging corpse in the dark, pretty far away and without much detail. And yet, when you bring a torch up to the hanging corpse in the actual game, you can see that it's very mutilated with lots of blood and bones. That was a very different depiction, far more intense, far more extreme than what had been disclosed to us. On top of that, what they submitted to us was very dark and unlit in other places, and there were some rooms that were covered in blood, but you couldn't tell that from the submission. So we have to rely on what's submitted to us.


Let's just say that Lucien doesn't look his best at the end of the DB quests.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:25 am

Wait you didn't get moderator permission to re-open this?
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:40 pm

If a Mod comes out that adds nudity it should not change the rating. The ESRB cannot be expected to regulate what the gamer chooses to add, nor can they regulate whether or not parents understand what modding is or how it works. That said there is nothing wrong with nudity or six and most people who will be playing Skyrim will have, at least on an visual level, an understanding of both. No one who games really cares about this, it is all people being puritanical and blowing it out of proportion.

Should Skyrim have nudity and/or six? If it approaches it from a real and mature angle, why the hell not? If Bethesda approaches it from an angle that is more Mass Effect than Duke Nukem, I can see no reason for them not to. As for the puritans who will make noise, let them make noise; all we do by not including these things in a mature manner is legitimize their small-minded beliefs and make them seem like the majority opinion.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:42 am

The number M rated games had risen by 100% in the past few years.

Developers aren't that afraid that the more limited audience that an M rating restricts them too will significantly hurt sales. On paper it seems like a big loss, however in reality it is not. The market has spoken and developers have an ear on the vine. They know what's up.


Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if developers feel that an M rating will INCREASE sales, after all, underage gamers still play M rated games, I know I was playing them before I was old enough that I was technically supposed to play them. On the other hand, I'm sure there are some teenagers who see an M rated game and then want to play it when they might not have noticed it before because they think that it's "cool" to play violent video games.

It's also concieveable that the number of M rated games increasing could also not be because the actual content of the game has changed, but because it's shown in much more detail due to graphical improvements, and thus it's viewed as more serious, as I've seen things in older T rated games that would probably earn an M rating if portrayed in modern graphics. Of course, it could also have something to do with the fact that developers just realize that getting an M rating is really not bad for business at all too.

Yeah, supposedly things like burning corpses weren't in the original game they were shown (supposedly). Meant more along the lines because of a nudity mod made, the ESRB freaked out because modders were doing what they wanted (go figure, someone doing what they want and it's a problem :pinch:) and rechecked the game and boom, M rating. Not like it really mattered at that point plus that "scandal" might have actually sold more copies of Oblivion after that lol.


The thing to remember here is also that this wasn't just any nvde mod, the model used for it was actually already on the game disk, one just needed to use a mod to use it in the game, so in this case, the model was actually distributed with a nvde model on the disk, if the model used were custom made for the game, I doubt it would have affected anything, just as many other games get nvde mods yet you never hear about them being examined again by ESRB. I'd still say its an absurd reason for even considering rerating the game myself, since you still need to modify the game to use it, and only do so if you choose it, but at least it was still an asset created for the game by Bethesda, just one that really shouldn't warrant the attention of ESRB.
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