Midas spells not showing + stats changing at random : IV

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:01 pm

Hallo,
I'm having some weird proplems after reinstalling Oblivion and updating my mods
1. Midas has no spells but minor enervation
2. Heart of Fury necklace (think it's from OOO) when I first equip it boosts my speed (+19), Athletic (+20) and Acrobatics (+9) and then makes these stats change at will till I often end up witha +63 boost in speed or after some spells same dramatic negative stats (like -22)
3. Gather ye rosobuds 2nd level spell not appearing in Mystic Emporium

I tried re-building the bashed patch both having esps and esms selected and not but nothing changed, have you got any clue?
Thanks

Here's my modlist

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» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:07 am

1. As in, you can't buy any spells from Midas? He doesn't sell any, you have to make the spells.
2. Get rid of OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp, you don't require it with FCOM. Its reduced running backwards, which Fran's already includes, is probably what's messing up your speed stat.
3. From Gather Rosebuds readme,

Gather Ye More Rosebuds:
A higher level spell available from The Mystic Emporium in the Market District. Only available to those whose combined Alchemy + Mysticism is 100 or more.

Do you meet the requirement?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:34 am

Buy the book Aurum Incantatum from Midas, it will show you which spells you can make and which items you need.

He has a few more interesting books i think but that is the only one i always buy.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:55 am

Regarding Gather Ye Rosebuds, once your required skills exceed 80, cast the lower level spell again. You'll get the message to go purchase the new spell, otherwise he won't have it in stock.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:25 pm

1. As in, you can't buy any spells from Midas? He doesn't sell any, you have to make the spells.

Had totally forgotten that!! Thanks

2. Get rid of OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp, you don't require it with FCOM. Its reduced running backwards, which Fran's already includes, is probably what's messing up your speed stat.

I tried that but I still get the +18 boost in speed. Haven't checked however if the stats get randomly messed up while playing. BTW, Phit Phiting Phixes also includes adjustments for running backwards, do you think it could interfere, too? I had it installed in my previous install and didn't get anything wrong

3. From Gather Rosebuds readme,

Do you meet the requirement?

No, but I thought it would work just as the other spells, showing up but with something like "You need 100 this and that to use this spell". Thanks

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:57 am

Buy the book Aurum Incantatum from Midas, it will show you which spells you can make and which items you need.

He has a few more interesting books i think but that is the only one i always buy.

Thank you very much, mate! Will do!
BTW, will I get som metal intoxication signs after using Midas's spells, thus needing pepsosintol or whatsitsname to cure metal pisoning?
I've been using 2-3 spells of his for a while and haven't had any signs of intoxication so far - and I just didn't remember I hadn't bought them from Midas but made them myself!

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:25 am

I tried that but I still get the +18 boost in speed. Haven't checked however if the stats get randomly messed up while playing. BTW, Phit Phiting Phixes also includes adjustments for running backwards, do you think it could interfere, too? I had it installed in my previous install and didn't get anything wrong

Oh yes, totally forgot PPP also has that function. I would suggest disabling Fran's, PPP's obse method is better, then you won't get penalized twice too. Grab http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17621. If your stats are still looking weird, remove everything that affects your stats, eg. enchanted clothes, then click Unofficial Oblivion Patch's menu token in your inventory. Select Restore broken stats/attributes and it should fix things up.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:42 am

Regarding Gather Ye Rosebuds, once your required skills exceed 80, cast the lower level spell again. You'll get the message to go purchase the new spell, otherwise he won't have it in stock.

Thanks, mate! So I'll just need to get the right stats. I thought it could be something like that...but probably it would have been better if it were stated more clearly in the readme! Or it was just me reading it too fast!!!

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:43 am

Thank you very much, mate! Will do!
BTW, will I get som metal intoxication signs after using Midas's spells, thus needing pepsosintol or whatsitsname to cure metal pisoning?
I've been using 2-3 spells of his for a while and haven't had any signs of intoxication so far - and I just didn't remember I hadn't bought them from Midas but made them myself!

Your welcome and no there are no side effects from his spells...unless they get reflected of course.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:21 am

Your welcome and no there are no side effects from his spells...unless they get reflected of course.

Thanks again! BTW there is also another problem bothering me with Bedrolls Anyone: I used to use some mod to pick up and use bedrolls - don't remember which one - and after sleeping I could pick up a bedroll and put it in my inventory. Now I can't, though I should be able to! Any ideas why? You know, since I'm using Real Sleep it's very handy to have a bedroll with me!

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:09 am

Thanks again! BTW there is also another problem bothering me with Bedrolls Anyone: I used to use some mod to pick up and use bedrolls - don't remember which one - and after sleeping I could pick up a bedroll and put it in my inventory. Now I can't, though I should be able to! Any ideas why? You know, since I'm using Real Sleep it's very handy to have a bedroll with me!

Get http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24649, better version with the bedroll features.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:22 pm

Get http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24649, better version with the bedroll features.

That's the one I'm using, I'm sorry I just didn't write its complete name, My fault :sweat:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:14 am

That's the one I'm using, I'm sorry I just didn't write its complete name, My fault :sweat:

Everything sorted out. When I was using the other mod it prompted me after sleeping if I wanted to pick up the bedroll, with this one you are just required to go into sneak mode and pick it up!