OMG What ... the ... : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:37 am

Loaded up Oblivion and absolutely everything is messed up. Meshes blink on and off, land and other meshes missing. Some partly transparent. Some stretched out. Well, have a look at the Skingrad Docks ...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f101/iwatson/WTF_view.jpg

And the inventory screen - my character is just as 8-up ...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f101/iwatson/WTF_menu.jpg

Basically, try to imagine every graphical glitch possible, all at once.

I tried so many things, then decided to try and load Oblivion with the standard launcher (not with OBSE) ...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f101/iwatson/OK_view.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f101/iwatson/OK_menu.jpg

I've launched OBSE with the current version a hundred times with no issue. So it can't be the launcher. Any ideas. I've never seen anything like this before. To be clear, the only thing I did different between taking those screens is launching Oblivion with OBSE, and then not with OBSE. Load order in case it matters ...

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.4]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]04  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm05  CustomSpellIcons.esm**  TNR - ALL RACES FINAL.esp06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]**  LoadingScreens.esp07  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp08  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.4]09  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.4]0A  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp0B  Symphony of Violence.esp0C  MIS.esp0D  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp0E  Silent Player Voice.esp0F  Storms & Sound.esp10  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.4]11  WindowLightingSystem.esp12  aaaBorsBedrolls.esp13  ChaseCameraMod.esp14  P1DseeYouSleep.esp15  wd purse of wonders.esp16  Living Economy.esp17  Cutthroat Merchants.esp18  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.1.1]19  Streamline 3.1.esp1A  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5]1B  HotkeyCasting.esp1C  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp1D  LevelerCheat.esp1E  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp1F  ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp20  UFF & RM Vermillion and Silverthorn Robes.esp21  UFF RM Ranger Armor.esp**  Armamentium female.esp22  Athletics While Riding.esp23  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]24  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]25  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]26  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]27  Demonhunter.esp28  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp29  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp2A  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp2B  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp2C  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.6]2D  The Lost Spires.esp2E  Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp  [Version 1.1.0]2F  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp30  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Real Lava 1.3.esp31  Birthsigns Expanded.esp  [Version 2.]32  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp33  ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp++  No Glow Grass - Shorter.esp++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp34  Shadow Ranger.esp  [Version 2.9.2]35  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.1.3]36  RealisticForceMedium.esp37  Druid Mod.esp38  MidasSpells.esp39  SigilStoneSelector.esp3A  Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp3B  SuddenViolence_CombatMoves.esp3C  SuddenViolence_Push.esp3D  SuddenViolence_Sprint.esp3E  SuddenViolence_ElementalSpells.esp3F  Denock Arrows.esp40  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp41  RealisticLeveling.esp42  idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esp43  The Southlanders.esp44  X.Races.Comp.esp45  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]46  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]47  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]48  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]49  Syc_LongerDaysShorterNights.esp4A  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]4B  LifeDetect Shader.esp4C  MiniMap.esp4D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:49 am

- Your copy of All Natural is ancient. It's up to 1.3 now, so you might want to upgrade that.

- Consider dropping Natural Water and Natural Vegetation for Enhanced Water and Enhanced Vegetation.

- Living Economy is obsolete, you should switch to Enhanced Economy.

Now, for your problem, are you sure it isn't your GPU overheating or something similar? I simply cannot see how OBSE would be able to make such a mess of things like that. Check to make sure you have no OBGE plugins, too, just in case they are interfering.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:54 am

Looks like missing files or something at first... Double check your BSA's are listed in Oblivion.ini? (or named appropriately eg. "DLCShiveringIsles - mymod.bsa")

Ed: Is it present if you start a new game? (Could be a corrupt save?)

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:36 am

UOP is also out of date.

Possible shader corruption that only manifests when OBSE is loaded? Possibly because there's a problem with a shader mod that needs it?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:18 am

I'm thinking you may have corrupted shaders or ini or both. Might want to do a search on shaders over at the Nexus library. When you disable OBSE that should also be disabling Streamline and any other mod which relies on OBSE so I think it's not OBSE causing this but one of the mods that is disabled when you disabled it. What version is your OBSE? OBSE itself really shouldn't be able to cause this, I don't think.

If I had to guess, I'd guess something has gone wrong with Streamline because that mod relies on OBSE and is touching your graphics. If your OBSE is majorly out of date, that might be an issue.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:03 am

Thanks all. It's something to do with OBGEv2. After trying some other things, I removed that plug-in and then the game loaded fine with the OBSE launcher.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:17 am

Not trying to be too annoying, but...thats the Anvil docks, not Skingrad

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:22 am

Not trying to be too annoying, but...thats the Anvil docks, not Skingrad

Haha! OMG Skingrad got moved to the coast too! Thanks - yea it should be Anvil :biggrin:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:02 am

Ah, that makes sense. Disabling OBSE also disabled OBGEv2. Hopefully you can get it working. I've seen a lot of threads about that mod, but since I don't use it (it would probably blow up my computer on top of all the other graphics stuff), I don't remember what the issue with shaders is. I think it had something to do with how you load them. Will try to find out for you.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:41 pm

OBGE v2 has been stable for many users (including me) without any issues. Not sure what is the exact circumstance when this problem manifests, but it is not a testament to OBGE's stability etc.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:23 am

I have never had a complete mesh and texture conflict like OP's screenies. Tried BOSS? After installing mods with BSA archives, tried OBMM BSAredirection in the ArchiveInvalidated! utility?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:31 am

That looks like z-compare is inverted; which means everything is painted inverted, not front-things survive but only the back-things. Just to express it somehow someone non-tech understands it.
For that to go awry your driver must actually have problems with the utilized depth-buffer, which is responsible for the correct front-to-back painting. I suggest trying:

[DepthBuffer]
bUseDepthBuffer=0

In the OBGE.ini. If that doesn't help you probably are out of luck. Sorry.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:10 pm

@OP: Also, adding to Etheron's descriptive: If you are using RivaTuner or some other video card tweaker, make sure you do not have Z-buffer tweaked.

@Etherron: Nice catch, glad someone with an eye for modeling checked out that screenie.