Oblivion crashing in certain areas

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:32 am

Using Crash Prevention System, Stutter Remover and Optimisation.

Originally planned to travel west from Bravil towards skingrad, but got several crashes as I travelled in the forests (always seem to get way more crashes in the woods) but as I neared a fort in that area the game would constantly crash in the same spot. So I decided to fast travel to one of the camps near Kvatch. Made my way from the camp west, but a few minutes down the line its like theres an invisible barrier that causes my game to crash. Quicksaved a few steps away from it, crashes always occurs in the same place. Tried approaching it from different angles, crash radius still applies.
Thinking it might have something to do with being near Kvatch (at least in th second example) but I've been there in the past!

Fast travel made only more annoying by vampirism.

From what I can tell there;s nothing in my load order that should be causing me such trouble. Can anyone offer me some advice for fixing this? Constant crashing has made my game unplayable.
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Charles Mckinna
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:43 am

Using Crash Prevention System, Stutter Remover and Optimisation.

Originally planned to travel west from Bravil towards skingrad, but got several crashes as I travelled in the forests (always seem to get way more crashes in the woods) but as I neared a fort in that area the game would constantly crash in the same spot. So I decided to fast travel to one of the camps near Kvatch. Made my way from the camp west, but a few minutes down the line its like theres an invisible barrier that causes my game to crash. Quicksaved a few steps away from it, crashes always occurs in the same place. Tried approaching it from different angles, crash radius still applies.
Thinking it might have something to do with being near Kvatch (at least in th second example) but I've been there in the past!

Fast travel made only more annoying by vampirism.

From what I can tell there;s nothing in my load order that should be causing me such trouble. Can anyone offer me some advice for fixing this? Constant crashing has made my game unplayable.


ZombieGenisis,
You should post your load order anyway because someone might see something that you may not have noticed. Also, do you clean your mods?

Raed
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Jessica Nash
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:34 am

In that case, I will get my Load order immediately.
And given I have no idea what 'clean' means, then sadly No. I have used Merged Patches in the past, but recently (for some reason) using a merged patch causes the game to CTD on start up. So that's no longer an option.

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Quite a load order here. Note that some mods (like Graphics Extender) may be on the list but are NOT active, because I couldn't get it to run.

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
CustomSpellIcons.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
VampireFaceBugFix.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
Better Cities .esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
LoadingScreensSI.esp
Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Real Lava v1.2.esp
Echo_ChapelChant.esp
Storms & Sound.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
IWR-Lights.esp
IWR-Windows.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
IWR-Shutters.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp
M.O.E. - Undermined Leveled Gameplay - Creature Edition.esp
M.O.E. - Undermined Leveled Gameplay - Item Edition.esp
Morrowind Ingredients.esp
P1DrobesOver.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
Get Wet v0.92.esp
Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
AyleidFiringa.esp
Banes Guilds United.esp
M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp
M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp
M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp
M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp
Mithril and Orcish Weapon Sets by Ionis.esp
lootableSIArmor.esp
Town_Ceremonial_Armor.esp
Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp
Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp
LoadingScreens-OOO.esp
Tamrielic_Ingredients.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
Ancient Ruins - Ayleid Edition.esp
AyleidArrows.esp
Bandit Hideouts.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed - Oblivion XP Patch.esp
Del_New_Sheoth_Homes.esp
Gaenor in Dementia.esp
hackdirtabyss.esp
Corpse_Kvatch.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp
M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp
Scribe Supplies.esp
sunk ships.esp
TempleOfZealotsV2.esp
The Ayleid Steps.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp
BrumaMGRestored.esp
BrumaMGRestored-Frostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp
M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mighty Umbra.esp
Mighty Umbra - Vanilla OB.esp
MannimarcoComplete.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp
Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp
Better daedric shrines Namira.esp
Better daedric shrines sanguine.esp
Better daedric shrines Sheogorath.esp
better daedric shrines Meridia.esp
Better daedric shrines Clavicus.esp
Better daedric shrines Vaermina.esp
better daedric shrines Nocturnal.esp
Better daedric shrine Pyriate.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Happyhannah's Time Wasting.esp
Cliff_BetterLetters.esp
Furniture Repriced.esp
M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp
M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp
M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp
M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp
M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp
M.O.E. - Realistic Prices, Realistic Weights, No Quest Items.esp
M.O.E. - New Classes.esp
MYR_AyleidKing.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Prox - Arena Loot v1.1.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon I.esp
M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon II.esp
M.O.E. - Hunger Effects.esp
M.O.E. - Fatigue Loss from Running.esp
ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp
Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp
M.O.E. - Vampire Players Scarier.esp
AyleidWeaponEnchantments_balance.esp
M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp
M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp
M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp
M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp
M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp
RefScope.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Jjiinx_Enhanced Disease.esp
Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
EnchantmentRestore.esp
EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp
M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp
SM Bounty.esp
sycHearNoEvil.esp
Adrenaline Fuelled Archery- Bow Sway.esp
Fiery Fists v1.2.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
Oblivion XP - The Ayleid Steps.esp
Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp
M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp
M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
P1DshieldNoGlow.esp
FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better daedric shrine Azura.esp
Better daedric shrines malacath.esp
Better daedric shrine Hircine.esp
Better daedric shrines molag bal.esp
Give Merhunes' Razor to Martin.esp
EnchantingFreedom.esp
Better Clocks for Better Cities.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp


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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:47 am

You shouldn't use MMM for OOO esm with FCOM for one thing. Hard to give other FCOM tips w/o version numbers, which you get if posting the load order via Wrye Bash.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:46 am

ZombieGenesis I've been experiencing the same problem from time to time, when I play on another character for example Blackwood doesn't crash on most characters, just crashes on one. I believe that after a while of avoiding the place that gives me crashes saved me from crashing. Try after playing with your character for some time and then try going to the zone where it crashes, it probably won't the reason for this is unknown to me. Just avoid the crash area and if you don't believe me try entering with another character.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:16 am

em, yeah this load order is messy. I am not sure but you might have compatibility issue with Kvatch Rebuilt and Better Cities...readme for KR says to have plugins AFTER OOO, FCOM and better cities...from last line in #6 of the readme on Planet Elder Scrolls: "?It is advisable to load Kvatch Rebuilt after OOO/FCOM and Better Cities." Have you tried BOSS?
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:40 pm

Used BOSS and changed the load order. It seems also that after a time the Kvatch mod corrupts my saves completely (the ones where a certain amount of time has passed).
Apparently this was a known bug for some people and this USED to be where he fix was

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1062793&view=findpost&p=15441188

Sadly the link has since died.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:02 am

I also find it quite funny how on searching for a solution and seeing this same problem (seems to happen after the villagers move into kvatch) coming up in several place, including here, none of these reports ever have replies. It seems like people avoid this issue like the plague.
Perhaps I've found myself a cursed mod.
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