Is my FPS unusually low? : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:57 pm

Recently (I say recently, more like almost a year ago but still) bought a new computer, and finally got round to installing Oblivion on it with all my mods - the current issue I'm facing is that my FPS in exterior cells seems incredibly low. I get about 45-55 FPS in interior cells, reduced to about 35-40 if there are lots of NPCs, but in an exterior I get only 13-15 FPS and 9-10 FPS in combat, which given my setup I would think is quite low. I'm not running any super high-res texture packs like QTP or anything like RAEVWD, only Bomret's Normal maps and CorePC's Vibrant Textures, along with Better Cities and FCOM.

My PC specs are:
i7 930 @ 2.8Ghz
6GB RAM
Radeon 5870 with 1GB VRAM
Win7 64bit (with LAA patch enabled for Oblivion.exe)

Given what I've read mostly on these boards it appears I should be able to run my current mods and replacers with high FPS - in reality I'm running at 1440x900 instead of 1920x1080, with most sliders at around 40% (although 40%-100% only makes about 2 fps difference, in exteriors that's currently important), HDR on, and 2x AA forced on my graphics card settings. Also running OSR version 4.1.0 and Streamline. Earlier today I was running at 8 FPS outdoors, since then I've gained about 5 FPS from turning on HeapMode 2 of OSR and re-running TES4LODGen. As I've said im quite clueless as to why my FPS is so low (still assuming that given my hardware it's quite a low figure) and would like some advice on how to improve it, preferably with no graphics loss (or even improving graphics quality - some clarity about what I should be capable of running would be great).

Heres my modlist:

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Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Windfall.esm
02 Jog_X_Mod.esm
03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.0]
04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
07 Harvest[Containers].esm
08 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
09 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
0A TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0B FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0C Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5]
0D BetterMusicSystem.esm
0E CM Partners.esm
0F HorseCombatMaster.esm
10 Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.0]
11 ScreenEffects.esm
12 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.3]
13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
15 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
19 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1B Fran Armor Add-on.esp
1C Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
1D Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
1E All Natural.esp [Version 1.1]
1F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.0]
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.1]
21 WindowLightingSystem.esp
22 Never die.esp
** VA_BetterGold.esp
23 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.1]
24 PTRoamingNPCs.esp
25 Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]
26 C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
27 Display Stats.esp [Version 1.3.1]
28 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
29 FormID Finder4.esp
2A kuerteeActorDetails.esp
2B Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42]
2C Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]
2D ScreenControls.esp
2E Streamline 3.1.esp
2F Vacuity.esp [Version 0.2]
30 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.0]
31 sr_super_hotkeys.esp [Version 0.54]
32 DLCHorseArmor.esp
33 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
34 DLCOrrery.esp
35 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
36 DLCVileLair.esp
37 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
38 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
39 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3A DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
3B EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
3C Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
3D Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp
3E Nicos Scimitars Back.esp [Version 1.61]
3F Nicos Gift.esp
40 Thieves Arsenal.esp
41 DLCThievesDen.esp
** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
42 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
43 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
44 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
45 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
46 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
47 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]
48 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]
49 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
** OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
4A Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]
4B OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla.esp
++ Harvest[Containers] - SI.esp
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
4E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
4F Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
50 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
51 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
52 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
53 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
54 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
55 kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
** Fransfemale.esp
56 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
57 CNRP DB.esp [Version 1.0]
58 CNRP DB for OOO.esp [Version 1.0]
59 Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp [Version 2.03]
5A Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp [Version 1.0]
5B BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.10]
5C hackdirtabyss.esp
5D Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
5E KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
5F EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]
++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp
++ EiAmod_ChoicesandConsequences.esp
60 GlenvarCastle.esp
61 LordKain_Adash_World.esp
62 Malevolent.esp
63 Northern Front.esp
64 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
65 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]
66 thievery.esp
67 thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]
68 Windfall.esp
69 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 2.0.5]
6A DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
6B DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
6C DLCFrostcrag.esp
6D DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
6E Knights.esp
6F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
70 SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]
71 Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 2.0]
** DLC_MOBS.esp
72 RTT.esp
73 RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1]
74 Mighty Umbra.esp
75 Blood&Mud.esp
76 Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]
77 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.2.COBL]
78 Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp [Version 2.0]
79 MannimarcoRevisited.esp
7A MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
7B FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
7C road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.9]
7D HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.5]
7E Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.0]
7F Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.5]
80 Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1]
81 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
82 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
83 xulTheHeath.esp
84 XulEntiusGorge.esp
85 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
86 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
87 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
88 mythsandlegends.esp
89 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
8A KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp
8B xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
8C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]
8D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
8E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
8F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
90 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
91 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
92 HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
93 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2]
94 KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp
95 xulPantherRiver.esp
96 Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
97 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
98 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
99 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]
9A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
9B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
9C Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
9D xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
9E xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
9F xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
A0 Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
A1 FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp
A2 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
A3 NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 5.0.1]
A4 EtInArkay-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp
A5 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
A6 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
A7 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Real Lava 1.3.esp
A8 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.2.1]
A9 Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp [Version 1.0]
AA P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
AB PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
AC Soulgem Magic.esp [Version 1.0]
AD Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
AE ATakesAll.esp
AF Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
B0 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]
++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]
B1 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
B2 RealisticFatigue.esp
B3 RealisticForceMedium.esp
B4 RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp
B5 Ashes to Ashes.esp [Version 1.0]
B6 Unholy Darkness.esp
B7 RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2]
B8 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
B9 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
BA SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.70]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
BB MidasSpells.esp
BC FearsomeMagicka.esp
BD attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
BE PTSneakPenalties.esp
BF StealthOverhaul.esp
C0 Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp
C1 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
C2 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]
C3 Armorer's Advantage.esp
C4 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
C5 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
C6 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1]
C7 Phitt's Phighting Phixes.esp
C8 Oblivion XP.esp
C9 SP1stPLegs.esp
** Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]
** Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76]
CA Useful Houses.esp [Version 2.0]
CB X.Races.Comp.esp
CC bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
CD bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
CE bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
CF bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
D0 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
D1 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]
D2 bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp [Version 10.0UV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
D3 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
D4 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
D5 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 1.0]
D6 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.5]
D7 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.9.5]
D8 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]
D9 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5]
** Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5]
DA Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp [Version 4.8.0]
DB Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4]
DC Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]
DD Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.9.1]
DE Better Cities - Thievery.esp [Version 4.8.0]
DF Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]
E0 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1]
++ Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5]
E1 SPAWN.esp [Version 0.3]
** [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
E2 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
E3 Shining Creatures.esp [Version 1.2]
++ Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp
E4 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 2.09]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.1]
E5 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
E6 X Race RBPd.esp
E7 bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp [Version 1.00]

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and if there's any logs or something I could provide that might help with diagnosis I'd be more than happy to do them - likewise if I've missed anything important out of this post.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:53 am

perhaps the large amount of mods is draining your Processing power?

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:32 pm

A large modlist is going to bring FPS down, particularly Better Cities, Unique Landscapes, and full FCOM. You are running LODGen so that means every mod that adds LOD mesh data on its own (plenty ULs do) is going to get it displayed. You have anti-aliasing, and that can bring performance down, too.

You might want to check the uGridDistantCount and uGridDistantTreeRange in your INI. The default values are 25 and 20, respectively, so you might want to lower those to 18 and 18. The default values are not good if you are adding extra Distant LOD to the game.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:22 am

Try updating Oblivion Stutter Remover to 4.1.24 RC. You could try playing around with the CriticalSections setting of the config. Changing the default mode to '3' here on a quad core CPU can improve performance. You should also increase the default spin time. I have an Intel Core 2 QX6700, which is also a quad core. Here is my config if you're interested. It's using version 4.1.24, so it won't work with 4.1. You can try changing the heap to ThreadHeap3, but I get a BSOD when using it alongside Creative ALchemy. Make sure to increase the heap size if you try the ThreadHeaps.

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Master = {	_comment = You can turn on or off each distinct feature from here.	bManageFPS = 1	bHookCriticalSections = 1	bHookHashtables = 1	bReplaceHeap = 1	bLogToConsole = 0	bFix64Hertz = 1	bExtraProfiling = 0	bFlushLog = 1	iSchedulingResolution = 1	bReplaceRandom = 1	bExperimentalStuff = 1	iMainHookPoint = 1}Experimental = {	iReduceLongSleep = 1	bRemoveShortSleep = 1	iThreadsFixedToCPUs = 0	bSuppressRandomSeeding = 0	bMonitorBSShaderAccumulator = 0	iPrintSceneGraphDepth = 0	bReplaceRandomWrappers = 1	bBenchmarkHeap = 0	bAlternate64HertzFix = 0	bAlternateHeapHooks = 0	iHeapMainBlockAddress = 0}FPS_Management = {	_comment = Basic FPS stuff, switches to slow-motion on low FPS; in the past this has occaisonally produced bugs like the NPCs-dropping-dead issue; the issues are believed to be fixed but if you suspect you are having related problems you can try disabling bAllowSlowMotion which is the main suspect for any problems relating to FPS management	bAllowSlowMotion = 1	MaximumFPS = 40	MinimumFPS = 10	iSmoothFrames = 0	iSmoothMode = 0	iSleepExtra = 2	iFPS_Frequency = 4000	iSchedulingParanoia = 1	iHardMaxFrametime = 200}CriticalSections = {	_comment = CS stuff helps Oblivion, Fallout, and New Vegas significantly	_comment = most of the benefit comes from the Renderer+0x180 suppression (see overrides below)	_comment = modes: 1=vanilla, 2=fair, 3=staggering, 5=suppressed, 6=prioritize-main-thread, 7=deprioritize-main-thread	bEnableProfiling = 0	bEnableMessages = 1	bUseOverrides = 1	iDefaultMode = 3	iDefaultSpin = 2000	iStaggerLevel = 5}Heap = {	_comment = Heap replacement can produce MAJOR improvements in performance on Oblivion at a significant cost in stability	_comment = It crashes instantly on Fallout3, and would only produce a small performance improvement there anyway	_comment = It is not supported at all on Fallout: New Vegas at this time	_comment = Algorithms: 1=FastMM4, 2=Microsoft (slow on XP), 3=SimpleHeap1, 4=TBBMalloc, 5=ThreadHeap2, 6=ThreadHeap3, 8=tcmalloc	_comment = Algorithms numbers 1, 4, and 8 require external DLL files in the Data/OBSE/Plugins/ComponentDLLs folder	iHeapAlgorithm = 1	bEnableProfiling = 0	iHeapSize = 450	bEnableMessages = 0	iGenericFreeDelay = 0	bZeroAllocations = 0}Hashtables = {	_comment = The dynamic resizing option is buggy and not recommended.  	bAllowDynamicResizing = 0	bUseOverrides = 1	bEnableProfiling = 0	bEnableMessages = 0	bEnableExtraMessages = 0	iHashtableResizeScale1 = 2	iHashtableResizeScale2 = 4	iHashtableResizeDelay = 20}OverrideList = {	CriticalSection = {		CallerAddress = 0x701748		comment = Renderer+0x180, recommendation=suppress (mode 5)		Mode = 5	}	CriticalSection = {		ObjectAddress = 0xB32B80		comment = MemoryHeap CS, recommendation=stagger (mode 3)		Mode = 3		Spin = 2500	}	CriticalSection = {		CallerAddress = 0x70172A		comment = Renderer+0x80, recommendation= modes 2(for stability) or 5(for performance)		Mode = 5	}	CriticalSection = {		ObjectAddress = 0xB3FA00		comment = Unknown4, recommendation=stagger (mode 3)		Mode = 3	}	CriticalSection = {		ObjectAddress = 0xB33800		comment = BaseExtraList, recommendation=stagger (mode 3)		Mode = 3	}	CriticalSection = {		ObjectAddress = 0xB3F600		comment = recommendation=stagger (mode 3)		Mode = 3	}	CriticalSection = {		ObjectAddress = 0xB3FC00		comment =		Mode = 2	}	CriticalSection = {		ObjectAddress = 0xB39C00		comment =		Mode = 2	}	Hashtable = {		comment =caller 0x00418E16		SizeAddress = 0x00418DDB		OldSize = 37		NewSize = 149	}	Hashtable = {		comment =caller 0x0045a8a1		SizeAddress = 0x0045A866		OldSize = 5039		NewSize = 133123	}	Hashtable = {		comment =caller 0x004A25BC		SizeAddress = 0x004A2586		OldSize = 523		NewSize = 2711	}	Hashtable = {		comment =multipart 1/2 - 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By the way, I only use Streamline for StreamPurge and StreamSight now because I found that the FPS Smoother decreased performance significantly on my system. I use OSR's FPS management now because it frees up CPU cycles when the game hits the maximum framerate, which also improves performance. I also found that the constant adjustment of details to be really annoying. I have tree fade set to 70%, object fade at 50%, item and actor fade at 35%, grass fade at 61%, view distance at 100%, and specular distance at 50%..

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:33 pm

Thanks very much for your help, I've since updated OSR, rebuilt my Ini with the tweaks suggested, and my FPS is now about 17-19 in an exterior cell, more than playable. I temporarily removed my DistantLOD folder and got a massive FPS boost, so I know I can just do that in the future if needs be. I have another couple of questions though:

1) OBGEv2 Shader Effects - I love the ingame menu provided, but it never seems to remember my choices - it activates every single shader every time the game initializes, which can get quite annoying. Is there are way of making it remember my settings?

2) VRAM usage - Seeing as I'm currently only using about 450mb VRAM at any given time, what options can I change to use the VRAM up that will have a minimal impact on stuff like CPU usage? And do texture mods like QTP3 solely rely on VRAM or do they use other components as well? In which case I might get a few high res texture packs, but I'm just wondering.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:34 am

One other thought that's sometimes overlooked: you can keep much of the stuff that requires hi-end processing (in my experience) if you lower your screen resolution. Whether you like the results or not is up to you, but it does provide a better framerate.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:52 am

Does QTP3 run mainly on the vram? because ive installed it and barely noticed a drop from 60fps since installing. But i have 3gb vram, so thats why im asking.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:58 am

One other thought that's sometimes overlooked: you can keep much of the stuff that requires hi-end processing (in my experience) if you lower your screen resolution. Whether you like the results or not is up to you, but it does provide a better framerate.

Currently running at 1440x900, which is lower than I would've liked if possible but still looks good - I'd rather not lower it too much more.