Too many monster spawns? Duplicated? : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:07 pm

I have the feeling I'm getting too many enemies spawning. Multiple 'boss' bandits at the same spot, bandits with identical faces in one place, etc. On the Go Fish quest I also got too many Rumare Slaughterfish, 3 at every spot where there should be 1 I think.

Every time I check the bandits that are spawning so much they're from MMM.

I shouldn't be getting so many monsters/enemies in the first place, with the MMM spawn plugin I'm using. Any ideas of what I could be doing wrong?

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» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:38 am

5D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]

As I have only run an FCOM install i have never noticed that ESP before? Could this be conflicting with the MMM reduced Vanilla ESP?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:24 am

No, that's a valid plugin. You can set the respawn time in the bashed patch, though, under Tweak Settings.

I've had this issue before... it's usually when I add mods and don't let the cells respawn. What I'd do:

Go to an interior cell without any NPCs (testinghall is best for this), and save;

Rebuild the bash patch and set the respawn time to 1 day*;

Go back in game, wait for 24 hours, and save;

Rebuild your patch with the desired respawn time (1 week, in your case)*.

*If you really want to wait for a week, you can skip the rebuilding steps.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:33 am

Alright, I'll give that a try. Thanks.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:13 am

Rebuild the bash patch and set the respawn time to 1 day*;

Go back in game, wait for 24 hours, and save;

Rebuild your patch with the desired respawn time (1 week, in your case)*.

That won't work. The cells are not respawned while you are waiting, the engine checks whether it should respawn them when they load. Therefore what happens in your system is that you wait in a secluded cell for a day with a respawn time of 24hrs, nothing gets reset, you reset the respawn time to a week, go back to a cell you were in before and... it's less than a week since you were last there so it still doesn't reset.

Vac

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:55 pm

Honestly I think I had that problem once with MMM and a mod I made that allowed multiple designs of one tier of armor - Unfortunately, I also had Crossbows of Cyrodiil as well it so it ended up being one heck of a fight just for getting into the fort I was trying to explore! It did require me to retry multiple times though, I can tell you that.

But, I think Bashed Patch can take care of that by merging all the levelled lists into each other so that the right number of spawns appear.