Will Skyrim have a V.A.T.S like combat option ? : V - Skyrim

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:29 am

Skyrim already has its own version of V.A.T.S. It's the dragon shout that slows time.

This.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:14 am

Will Skyrim have a V.A.T.S like combat option ?

*Throws her toys out of the pram* No! No! No! No! NO!

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:26 am

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:22 am

I'm positive vats is a fallout thing...

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:42 am

VATS was something like VaultTech Automated Targeting System. It would not fit into the game in any way. Besides, theres supposed to be a DragonShout to slow down time, and one to sneak up on your enemy. I think they sound way better than an Elder Scrolls version of VATS.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:45 am

No. This isn't Fallout. Please.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:08 pm

I'm saying you wouldn't need a device. It would be an game play artifact of switching to a more turn based mode for short periods of time. Not everyone wants to play action RPG's, some want the more core RPG mechanics. Since I doubt they will ever switch back to the morrowind and earlier style of die rolls to hit on your normal swings a VATS like thing would allow people who prefer the die roll based combat the option to do so.

Ah, okay, gotcha. I'm still in favor of no VATSish anything in Skyrim. I like the sound of the slow time shout and a kill cam (with an option to turn off).

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:32 am

No a vats like system in Skyrim would be bad.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:54 am

True enough if there was a VATS system TES would die from it. I think pretty much every person that enjoyed oblivion on morrowind would be left with the thoughts... 'What.... is this?'

Sure fallout 3 was fun to zoom in after shooting someone in the head but it did everything for you right down to the body part you want to automatically hit.... NO SKILL INVOLVED.

VATS should not touch the world of swords, bows and other melee/ranges weapons. Its a horrible system in my opinion.

At most at any one time, if you executed your oponent the camera angle could change to watch you behead that person etc. That would be great. other than that No.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:54 pm

V.A.T.S. is a part of the Fallout universe, I believe. It wouldn't fit in an Elder Scrolls game.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:30 am

Maybe the vats system destroyed the dwenmer.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:21 am

Negative. TES and Fallout are two different species. When you interbreed two different species, you don't get a superbreed... You get a sterile, freakish abomination.

TES and Fallout already had naughty time and have started reproducing... The offspring wasnt a monster as you state. It was Fallout 3.

It gets worse my friend. You see, for all intents and purposes SKYRIM is the love child of Oblivion getting molested by Fallout 3. LOL

Back to topic: Vats isnt necessary for Skyrim. You see Vats was introduced to fallout 3 because F3 was a shooter that couldnt hit the side of a barn. Skyrim isnt a shooter but more a hack n slash, hence Vats not needed. BUT... thats doesnt mean you wont see some variation used for some reason, we cant say at this point. I wouldnt care if it was used in some fashion, but its not necessary, so im ok either way.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:25 am

NO i say this every time i see a thread like this keep FO out of TES

I dont understand these comments, what are you guys freaking out about. You do realize that as things stand now, FO & TES are similar in everything except lore and setting. FO & TES will be molesting each other for the good of both series for the conceivable future. Experiments and ideas tried out in FO will be introduced to TES and visa versa. Beth will try to fix problems with FO with new mechanics in TES and visa versa. FO is DEEP INSIDE your TES. Its ok. We will already see the effects of what they learned in FO3 introduced to Skyrim, just as FO3 had certain mechanics as a response to problems with Oblivion.

All this doesnt even take into account, the bonus of Beth staff getting to play in 2 worlds instead on just one. Being allowed to take a break from one world and flesh out another. Makes for a less jaded and bored production studio. On multiple occasions Ive heard Howard make a similar claim, being happy to work outside of their baby(tes) for a couple of years, which eventually leads to excitement to work again on TES when they are done with FO.

Topic: as others mentioned, a new dragon shout will already have a slow time effect.... MMMMmmm all this game series on game series molesting is getting hot. LOL

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:02 am

I have to admit the V.A.T.S system of fallout 3/NV was one of my favorite aspects of the game.

I can only imagine how impressive a bullet time version of a warrior cleaving through groups of people might look like

Also, are you guys going to improve on the model damage in combat ? Dark Messiah of Might and Magic had some good ideas on being able to chop up targets and model semi realistic aspects to cutting through people.

I remember there being some community mods that didnt quite get it perfect but did show that it was possible. Everybody who swings a greatsword or looses an arrow wants to see something fantastic happen on the kill shot -- please give us something to be proud of in that regard!

I bloody well hope not.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:50 am

Ah, okay, gotcha. I'm still in favor of no VATSish anything in Skyrim. I like the sound of the slow time shout and a kill cam (with an option to turn off).

What I really want is an RPG mode where you can switch to a die roll mechanic instead of an action game mechanic. But ah well, those kind of things are gone for good probably.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:48 pm

so you want ESV to be fallout 3 with fantasy skins.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:14 am

I hope the V.A.T.S. system is not in my Elder Scrolls.

Though, there is a marksman skill perk that apparently slows down time.