Sounds great! Hope you pull it off

I'm speechless, incredible work, in both quality and quantity. The only thing I hope you'll be able and want to change is the dependancy on Tamrielic lore. In other words I'm kinda hoping that as the mod evolves, it will eventually become something like a TC, with the island having its very own story as it is incosistent in terms of realism and features in general with the rest of Oblivion's world. Not that the opposite would reduce my interest...

:hugs:



ideally quests etc may make an appearance in the mod. but this is secondary to the ultimate goals of the mod.
(the scripting and implementation of the jobs and the team having fun)

I have a question, please do not take this as a rude remark nor an ungrateful one I am only wondering if you guys intend to continue working on this mod after version 1 is done or if it will be the final, if I don't remember incorrectly back once you started working on this mod you intended to do just that, though as everyone knows one has a tendency to grow tired of things, which I hope is not the case but I am just curious

Is Aledra actually on the map of Cyrodil or what?

The town called Turil has been redesigned and is almost complete.

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Hello, there.

S.B. and CoolShady called to my attention that the ideas I presented in my http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=915021 have something in common with your NPCs with Jobs mod.

My initial assessment, after a rather quick reading on your thread and site, is that our approaches and objectives are different:
I understand that you handle each individual quite . . . well . . . individually, keeping track of his/her money, health, interactions etc
The mod I am planning, although the NPCs themselves will have proper animations, will only be concerned with global information on production, costs, etc (pretty much as many strategy games out there) that will determine whether the society will grow, stagnate or shrink.

Anyway . . . it seems that there is a lot of room for cooperation and I wonder if there would be anything that you still need or plan, and that I am going to do anyway. In the scripting area, I mean. Scripting is all I know.

For example: I am working on a script to have a farmer going to the field and plant each and every one of the plants. Then, on a second cycle, the farmer tends the plants. Then, on a final, third cycle, go to each plant and harvest it.
Would this be of any use to you? Or do you already have something like this?

I did not find any reference on whether the NWJ contents are resources I could use or not. Are they available?
And let me make it clear beforehand that I would not mind if your contents are not public. You are still welcome to use mine, as everything I do, I publish as resource on TES Nexus (not much ATM).
I hope we find something in common.

I read your thread as well, and I think we have definitely common interests. You seem to place the player centrally, while we give the player a part in the whole picture.
The farming cyclus is already fuly implmented and released like you decribed. Farmers will determine things that need do be done on a farm, formed by a group of chores, and perform them one by done.
On the crops department, we have plowing & sewing and harvesting. This release we are working on will make it possible to use our jobs in custom mods, perhaps something you can use to build yours?
You mentioned The Settlers somewhere, one of my big examples as well.
Feel free to join us anytime, I'm the only scripter for the moment with very little time at the moment. If you happen to register at our site, I'll create a subforum for discussing both our projects.

Resources are available for use if asked and credited for.

First of all, I want to apologize for taking so long to replying (. . . not sure about grammar here).

I was about to finish my Realistic Farming script and wanted it to be ready when I replied. It took longer than I expected and RL got in the way too.

Anyway, I just released it and I will register at your site, as suggested, and continue there.

Sarkandar, I was reading your comment about wanting to reduce dependency on Tamrielic Lore.

You could always go the route of having it being on another plane, as since the Daedra and Aedra have their own planes of existence, it is entirely possible that entirely seperate planes not tied to either of those groups of gods could exist.

Add a small quest accessing your world and voila!

Care to give us, the salivating masses, an update?

is this mod supposed to be incompatible with a lot of stuff? it's the only one I had to take out of my FCOM setup cuz it would CTD like crazy ( waiting for even 1 hour resulted in an almost certain CTD - yes, I was using the compatibility patches provided on PES ) , and everything is fine now... still it's sad to lose such a great mod would posting my load order help?

1) the mod is in hibination at the moment.
2) posting the load order would help

here is my load-order, hopefully this can help to understand what's going on. it's most probably some NPC's AI package that's conflicting, since the game starts just fine but crashes as soon you wait even for 1 hour.

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What happend to the Whitmond farm mod?? it is no longer on nexus.

Dead?

Probably

Dead. Moderator please lock.