New info about faction quests

Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:44 pm

@theuglyguyinthestore, that would be true in NV, but it would not be right to exclude from a faction based on what type a character you pick, that would be like confining female characters to the NCR. I am not saying we should have been able to work for all the factions, but its just not right to exclude gameplay just on what race some one plays the game as.



You're right. Hell, my favorite playthrough (Yes, I've managed multiple) in New Vegas was as a woman, listening to all the hilarious dialog I became subject to.

Race and Gender should not factor into what locks a player out of a specific path. Unless it's extremely general (IE, Mer versus Men) and done with a darn good reason. And by Darn good reason, I mean like a level I don't think the Gaming Medium is capable of delivering yet.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:45 pm

ah I take it this particular group is of the people who want to still do missions for people who are Dead? or who's factions you crippled?

Yes please. Don't restrict me.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:18 pm

Yes please. Don't restrict me.

That's a parody right? Save the other content for another character.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:31 am

That's a parody right?

Not at all.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:14 pm

I misinterpreted the meaning of this topic. It really has nothing to do with factions at all, as Todd is merely talking about quests having to do with social disparity and attitude amongst the different races. Considering this will merely be flavor and add to the immersion an experience of Skyrim, why do you think you would have a strong role in dealing with racial tensions? You are Dragonborn, and as such this is merely an addition to making the world more believable and interesting. I'm just glad the racial differences will actually be present this time around, as they made Morrowind a very intriguing game as a result.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:15 pm

Yes please. Don't restrict me.


It's okay for you to restrict the writers from delivering deep, meaningful conflict, but it's not okay for them to limit it by very logical conflict-of-interest reasons? Stop restricting my experience please, I want to experience dynamic relationships and consequences for them.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:43 am

It's okay for you to restrict the writers from delivering deep, meaningful conflict, but it's not okay for them to limit it by very logical conflict-of-interest reasons? Stop restricting my experience please, I want to experience dynamic relationships and consequences for them.

"Be anyone", "Do anything".
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:46 am

He was refering to the racism in the game, not faction quests, the racism the player will encounter is mostly just for flavor, it doesn't actually close off any oportunities in the game, and that's how it was in Morrowind too. You wouldn't encounter people who would refuse to give you a specific quest because of your race, and even if your race did impact anything, it would be fairly minor, certainly, there wouldn't be an entire faction you couldn't join because of the race you chose. And yet Morrowind still had cases where joining a specific faction had concequences, the great houses, most notably.

Now, will certain faction questlines conflict with each other? Maybe, maybe not, we have no way to know this at this time, but I can say that racism and faction quests are different matters, and one should not assume that the handling of one issue will be the same as the other. Bethesda simply doesn't want your choice of race to effect what quests you can do, I think, and I agree with that. I choose which race to play based on what race I want to play, not what quests I want to do, I do NOT want to be forced to play as a race I don't like to be able to experience content I might enjoy. On the other hand, when I join a certain faction, I do so with the intention of experiencing any quests that might be involved with that faction, and if that counts out doing another faction I might want to do, I don't mind creating a second character to experience it's questline, on the other hand, I will object to needing to create a Bosmer to experience a certain questline. I like to have which quests I do decided by which quests I choose to do, not which race I choose to play, but regardless, we don't know what Bethesda is going to do, so we should refrain from making too many assumptions, after all, people seemed to have mostly assumed that all cities will be open in Skyrim and... well, if you've watched the interview you'll know what came of that.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:52 am

"Be anyone", "Do anything".


"Do anything" not "Do Everything".
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:33 pm

Yes. Fighters Guid vs Thieves Guild

You must also choose a great house. Theres 3.

I also believe the arch mage (Trebonius) asks you to destroy the telvanni arch magisters.

EDIT: Dammit i fell for another one of your questions.

A.)can be avoided if you work up both guilds at once. There is some special dialogue about it and you gotta kill some fighters and Comana tong.

B.) Glitch where you can be in redoran and hlaluu

C.) you can kill Trebonius instead.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:16 am

A.)can be avoided if you work up both guilds at once. There is some special dialogue about it and you gotta kill some fighters and Comana tong.

B.) Glitch where you can be in redoran and hlaluu

C.) you can kill Trebonius instead.

Exactly.

As someone born with the magical quicksave button, I should have the means to manipulate the factions in a way to be the head of all of them. You can make it hard, make it complex, make it take a long time. But I want to be able to do it even if it means it is difficult.

My Avatar is suppose to be the Chosen One. One of my favourite moments in Oblivion was to steal the Archmage Staff from MYSELF when I am doing the Thieve's guild quest. Normal NPCs would never be able to do such things, but my Avatar is not your average NPC.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:03 pm

I think it would bring a fresh aspect to gameplay if it made you choose between competing guilds. Not because of race (unless very general) or gender, but because they are competing with each other. I liked this approach in New Vegas as it brings out a new perspective in each playthrough. Plus you get a chance to "taste" what the factions are like before going passed the point of no return.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:10 pm

I'm a fan of different experience in different playthroughs. I hate to be head of all guilds and being able to see all the content in one single play. I want choices to have weight in Skyrim, and lead to really different consequences. Replayability would benefit greatly if the guilds have opposed interests and mutually exclusive quests.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:45 pm

If i'm the head of the fighter's guild I shouldn't be able to become the archmage of the mages guild.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:17 am

NO!!! I hate being locked out of factions because of something stupid. That alone made NV svck..... worse. I think Todd has it right when he said its just for flavor



so you should have been able to rise up the ranks of both the NCR and Caezers Legions. :facepalm: its not the game that svcks. i wish people would think about what they are saying. they are saying that you character should become the head of all the guilds no matter if they are at odds with eachother. thats the same as becoming the head of the DNC vs the RNC. would the democratic leadership seriously trust the guy who is also the head of the republican party to lead them........i think not. this isnt rocket science people.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:34 am

so you should have been able to rise up the ranks of both the NCR and Caezers Legions. :facepalm: its not the game that svcks. i wish people would think about what they are saying. they are saying that you character should become the head of all the guilds no matter if they are at odds with eachother. thats the same as becoming the head of the DNC vs the RNC. would the democratic leadership seriously trust the guy who is also the head of the republican party to lead them........i think not. this isnt rocket science people.

Thats not what I was saying. The fact that you were completely locked out of content made the game svcked. There were so many other ways they could have done it. Here's hoping Skyrim uses one of THOSE ways
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