And especially Arena and Daggerfall.

Thanks, I got it day before yesterday and can't say I don't like it but till now I think I have done just 3 side quests, it's a lot harder to get used to than oblivion, in terms of both gameplay and looks.

You just dont like ES games then and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but TES shouldn't change because of that. That's the problem with most RPGs today IMO. Trying to appeal to an unreceptive audience. If you thought Oblivion was ''ugly", its a good thing you didnt play Morrowind or Daggerfall.

Oh yeah baby...Oh Yeaahhh...

Keep playing lad...Keep playing...It grows on you...By the By...What are you playing them on?

In terms of graphics battlefield 3 is better but graphics should not be a great factor in terms of liking a game. clearly the game play is the most important, thats just my opinion though who knows.

Agreed...(Author pulls long wistful draw from his Brier pipe)

Graphics sould never become a deciding point on whther or not a game is good. A game can have good graphics but a horrible story and horrible gamebly, and thus be deserving of being called a bad game. In the same way, a a game can have a great story and great gameply, but still be a good overall game. Graphics don't mean as much as your friends apparently think they do.

My friend's Porkchop(We call him Porkchop), Danielle,and Aaron told me they were really excited about the game.

Do they count as neutral?

One of my friends actually tried Oblivion just last Saturday. He got about 7 minutes into the tutorial then quit because it was too boring. I agree, the current majority of gamers are what I call 'stupid'. Not in the normal sense (lacking the ability to comprehend things, do math, whatever), but in a different one. They only want to play a game if it's fast paced, your told exactly what to do, the graphics are top notch, and something explodes every 4 seconds. They care little about story, and don't listen to much dialog. This obviously means TES is not, and never will be the series for them. Honestly it's sad. I think TES is a fantastic series. Sure, there are no nazi zombies (just normal zombies ), sure not much explodes, sure Oblivion and before dont look the best anymore. But I have yet to play another game that gives you such a rush of immersion, telling all sorts of stories and letting you truely feel like your in their world. I have gotten lost countlessly in Oblivion (and Fallout 3, which was like realistic Oblivion, lets be honest ) where hours would pass and I don't even notice, until looking at the clock in shock. Then of course, I abruptly notice how stiff my legs are... or that I had stopped breathing for several minutes... But it's still awesome! I assure you! :cryvaultboy:

Me and my dad were so pissed with Pac-Man on the Atari, what a disappointment. :brokencomputer:

ya my friends still say that COD has better graphics then battlefield, and i still say that they have brain tumors

I can understand that graphics is important to a games development, but to play just because the graphics are good?

I love playing Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion. I didn't think that Oblivion was the best in the series, but I did love playing it for millions of hours.
In Oblivion, I didn't think that the movements of the NPCs and the PC was very good looking. Also, didn't like the random button(ugly button). I did love how the forest looked though=P

Yeah many ppl play games for graphics only i actually find them boring after playing them for a few hours or so. and my favorite game i actually played longest is morrowind i played it more than oblivion mostly because morrowind was so much more alien and strange when oblivion i dunno was so mcuh like repetitive classic fantasy atmosphere

Yeah...I focused mainly on 'Dig-Dug', 'Centipede', 'Moon Patrol', 'Night Driver', & 'Pole Position'

Pfft, Archon is where it was at.

Oblivions graphics were great for its time.

It says so right on the back of the box:
"Oblivion is the most beautiful game I've ever seen" - Official Xbox Magazine.

The Morrowind case I have advertises great graphics . It's all relative to the time, indeed.

I imagine Skyrim will say the same.

go check the bf3 trailer it will be the best looking game for at least 3 years onwards

Not to me.

for the elder scrolls series the graphics are amazing but what some of the people that are criticizing are doing is comparing to other games that focused on mind blowing graphics. i personally am happy with what i see. if i could change anything about it (which this opinion is not set in stone because we have yet to see enough game play for me to decide) i would make the hair better. from the pics and what little game play we have seen it looks like the hair is fused to the body. now keep in mind this game is not finished and may change before it is released but i would like to have physicked hair or hair with some animation to it that is separate from the body.

second best game i've seen (Crysis2)

I don't understand how anyone can simply refuse to play a game because of graphics.

Would they call the Legend of Zelda or Super Mario Bros. or Sonic the Hedgehog trash games? Because those graphics are terrible! 8 and 16 bit graphics what?! If all you're about is graphics, just go watch a movie, those graphics look like real life!