Howdy,

So I'm having my first "tutorial" game of Caravan and yet, I don't seem to be able to understand the rules, or more specifically, I can't seem to play any of the cards in my hard, and I have no idea why. I understand the rules, I think I do atleast. First card determines suit, second determines ascending or decending.

But, I can't seem to play any of the cards in my hand and I don't know why.



http://www.feartheflames.com/Fnv.jpg

Can someone explain to me, why I can't play any of those cards? What cards I could play and why those ones aren't working? The issue is, I select any card from my hand, and when trying to place it on a caravan, it just shows red, invalid, any of those cards, on any pile.

Someone guide this idiot, please?

I have the same problem... First tiem i tried i had the option to take a card or what it was, but after the first time i pressed discard card, that is all i can to afterwards:P I have a strong suspicion that it`s a bug we`re experiencing.

You either know caravan or you don't, and once you do, it's difficult to teach.


Plus, I think it may be buggy.

I've now read the holotape and the manual several times over, and it states that the first card determines suit, second direction.

So, I have spades in my hand, 6, 7, 8, but none of them work on that ten, nothing works, on anything, and I just end up losing caps. The only thing I can play, is face cards. Nothing else, while my opponant seems to just randomly play cards that I can't understand why.

I just wanna play a card game

It's so frustrating I want to help I just don't know what words to use, it's like big nothing said, it's just to hard to teach

you'll pick it up eventually trust me, it just takes a little while

Ok, Billy, from the screenshot I provided, which card would you play, on which pile, and why? Just break it down, like that, and that would help me.

All of them to me, are red, however if you can help me, by saying "I would play the 8 of Spades on the 10, then the 7, and then the 6" And that would work in your game, or has worked in the past I would know I'm not going insane. Just tell me what card from my hand shown, you would play, on what pile.

I mean, why are none of the cards in my hand a valid option for playing on my 3 piles. I don't understand, according to the rules, they should be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AorCJkgie_s

check this out , it will help .

I watched the video, but it still doesn't help me Drama, I'm unable to play anything on my 10 for example, when they seem to have no issue doing so. I'm more querying if mine is bugged at this point, because logic dictates that one of the cards in my hand should be able to be played on those first cards, but they aren't they're all "invalid" red when I try,

soooo..

i'm assuming your playing on PC?

here goes.

arrow keys allow you to select cards in your hand.. the card on top.. is the card you can choose.. W key. good enough?

have fun
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for the first caravan I would play the 8 of spades then the seven of spades and that would work

this might sound stupid, but is the card directly beneath the preceeding card or is it directly beside it or below it a little more?

I'll get some screenies to show what I mean, i'll make an edit in about 10-15 mins

I think I know your problem.

You start the Caravan
You place your 3 cards
You cannot seem to place the next few levels of cards to carry on the suit or the up/down progression

Reason:
You have a choice of either placing higher or lower cards (that determines the progression, or you place a same suit card - can be either higher or lower).
These next cards are the next "level", so after selecting the next cards you want to play and where, press the "DOWN" direction button. This will bring the "cursor" to the next level.
This is because you may want to play any of the face cards or the Joker on an earlier card, so the "cursor" can move up or down.

Try it. The "cursor" should turn green.

Have fun!

Oh, 1 last tip - you can play your face-cards on your opponent's cards as well. Don't rule that out of your strategy.

I know that Doven, Arrow keys move between the cards in my "Hand" and the caravan piles. However, no matter which card I select from my hand, using the arrow keys, and then pressing W to select it, when it comes to placing upon any of my caravans (The bottom 3) It shows as red, invalid, and won't let me place it. So I press R, cancel it and return that card to my hand, and try the next card in my hand, no luck there either, it shows as red invalid and won't let me play it. But I'm not understanding WHY it's red/invalid. I mean, I only have 1 card in each caravan, the next card placed will determine ascending or decending direction, however I can't seem to play any of the cards in my hand, on any of my caravans, and I don't know why they are invalid cards, or what would be valid cards in this situation.

Siv, you are a god amoung men, thank you, that was the issue I was having, I needed to press down on my caravan and place it at the next "tier" in the caravan.

You sir are a true star,

And that's what I was going to post screenies of, it was hard to explain in words.

Enjoy caravan

hmm.. interesting.

now that you have clarified your issue.. lets give this a shot.

first off .. three "starter" cards HAVE to be played before the piles (caravans) can be build upon. Looks as if you got that down. First card in pile defines suit. cool.

Your next card determines acsending/decending value for the rest of play (or until a queen is played).. So. lets look at just one pile.
which you can place using those same arrow keys

Say you play a 10. as an opener for the pile. You have to play something below the 10.. 9,8,7.. so on. Next card under that has to be lower again. so example. 10-7-5 = 22. you could not play 10-7-7 or 10-7-8.. as you cannot break acsenion.. UNLESS you play a queen on the last card of that pile.. example.. 10-7-5-Q-anything over 5.

Jacks allow you to take out any card in the game.. either player. 10-7-5.. play Jack on the 7. Now you only have 10-5

Kings DOUBLE the value of the card.. either player.. so can be used to "bust" the NPC's pile. Example: PC has a pile thats.. 10-9-7 = 26. you can play a king on the 10.. 10+k-9-7 and now the PC is at 36 BUST.. Pc then has to break that caravan and start over. (that pile)

Jokers.. allow you to take out ANY card.. (including your own so be carefull) from the current turn.. example: P1. 10-7-5 P2. 10-6-4 P3.. A-3-5 Playing a Joker on the first 10 in 10-7-5.. will KEEP that ten.. but all other tens on the board ... are discarded. so it would look like this.. P1 10+joker-7-5.. P2. 6-4 P3. A-3-5.

now.. you should be able to play any card Under or over whatever First card starts your pile.. But you cannot duplicate. ie. 10-10.. or Ace-Ace. ect.

maybe this will help a little.. not sure

cheers
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The key is the arrow keys (for PC), or whatever the equivalent would be on a console. Once you have established your three caravans (one card in each column), you can then select a card from your pile (the right hand side of the screen). Use the right or left arrow key to cycle through your cards. Then select the card of choice (the top card showing of your pile) using left mouse (or console equivalent). That card will then appear on your left-most column. It will initially be red even though it might be playable on that column. Use the down arrow key to move the card downwards one step. It should now turn green If it is playable on that column. If, when moving the card down with the down-arrow, it never turns green (stays red), then it can't be played on that column. Use your right arrow key to move it to another column. If it is red no matter where you move it, then it can't be played at all. Use the CANCEL selection and choose another card.

You can use the arrow keys to move a card to your opponent's columns as well. If you want to 'give' your opponent a face card (Jack, queen, king) [read about their effects in your manual], select it from your pile and it will appear in your left-most column. Shift it to another column using right-arrow if you wish, then use the up-arrow key to move it to your opponent's column. You can move the card up or down (up arrow, down arrow) in your opponents column to place it in the appropriate location.

In a nutshell: Moving cards right, left, up, down using arrow keys is the key. Play around with card movement for a while and you will get the hang of it. You can always CANCEL and select a different card.

The game is kinda fun once you figure it out.

I feel images help and seeing as there will no doubt be more people wondering how to play I might post a few of what it should look like and what the problme could be of you not be able to place it down

This is how you want it to look
http://img155.imageshack.us/f/falloutnv20101023234224.png/

Not like this
http://img814.imageshack.us/f/falloutnv20101023234223.png/
http://img696.imageshack.us/f/falloutnv20101023234225.png/
http://img530.imageshack.us/f/falloutnv20101023234226.png/
http://img545.imageshack.us/f/falloutnv20101023234226.png/

so as people above have said use your arrow keys to manoeuvre the card into palce and get it looking like this
http://img155.imageshack.us/f/falloutnv20101023234224.png/

Yeah, one of my friends has already had the same issue, will point them here

Thanks for all the help guys.