I bash patched my game and now it won't load, I have it BOSS'd and Bashed but it won't work unless I deactivate the patch and run them singularly. Everything is green, except for Item Interchange which is not supposed to be green iirc. It just loads my game and then stops while it's loading - no not responding or anything. I can get it to start a new game, but it will crash shortly after.

Here are my master I have installed, from wryebash list, if you need anything else ask please I really want this to work:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]02  ScreenEffects.esm03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]12  Fran Armor Add-on.esp13  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp14  Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp15  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp16  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp17  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp++  BetterImperfectWater.esp++  ln.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp18  AmbientTownSounds.esp19  MIS.esp1A  MIS Low Wind.esp1B  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp1C  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp1D  Storms & Sound SI.esp1E  Rainbows.esp1F  LightsOut.esp20  Cities Alive At Night.esp21  WindowLightingSystem.esp22  AliveWaters.esp23  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp24  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]25  Morrowind Ingredients.esp  [Version 1.6]26  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.8]27  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]28  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.8]29  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.12]2A  Living Economy.esp2B  Living Economy - Items.esp2C  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]2D  DLCHorseArmor.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2E  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2F  DLCVileLair.esp30  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]31  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp32  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]33  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]34  Classic-Wizard-Robes-U.esp35  ElegantVests.esp36  GC Draqed Gowns.esp37  GC Gowns.esp38  GCBloodgown.esp39  GriffinArmor.esp3A  KA_RoseDress.esp3B  KDDwemerSpectacles.esp3C  RavenWearClothing.esp  [Version 1.5]3D  ShinobiSet.esp3E  SomeRobes.esp3F  Tegeals Extra Robes.esp40  Templer-Armor.esp41  vermillionandsilverthorn.esp42  Viro's Kung Fu Set.esp43  WhiteRoseArmor.esp44  300_Brocade_Outfits.esp45  darkrosearmor.esp46  DLCThievesDen.esp47  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]48  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  ExnemRuneskulls.esp4A  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp4B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]4C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp51  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]53  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]54  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]55  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]56  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]58  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]59  CurseOfHircine.esp5A  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5B  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5C  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5D  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5E  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5F  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]60  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]61  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]62  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]63  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]64  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]65  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]66  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]67  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]68  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp69  Castle Ravenpride.esp  [Version 1.01]6A  300_Artifacts.esp6B  Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp6C  Bjornheim.esp6D  eyja.esp6E  Hand of Dawn.esp6F  JolardHome.esp70  Quest For The Elements.esp71  Servant of the Dawn.esp72  zDangerSense.esp73  LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp74  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp75  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]76  DLCFrostcrag.esp**  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]77  Knights.esp78  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]79  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]7A  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]7B  Damarask.esp  [Version 1.02]7C  TOTF.esp7D  RTT.esp7E  The Lost Spires.esp7F  Mighty Umbra.esp80  Blood&Mud.esp81  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp82  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]83  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Ruin.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]84  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]85  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]86  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]87  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp88  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]89  xulTheHeath.esp8A  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp8B  XulEntiusGorge.esp8C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]8D  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]8E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]8F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]90  mythsandlegends.esp91  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]92  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]93  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]94  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]95  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]96  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]97  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]98  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]99  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp9A  xulPantherRiver.esp9B  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp9C  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]9D  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]9E  NakedNord.esp9F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]A0  xulBlackwoodForest.espA1  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]A2  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.espA3  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.espA4  CastleRavenpride-CheydinhalFalls patch.espA5  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]A6  xulSkingradOutskirts.espA7  bartholm.espA8  Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A9  BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]AA  JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp++  FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]AB  NPC new clothes V2.6.esp++  FCOM_NewNPCClothes.espAC  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.espAD  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]AE  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]AF  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]B0  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]B1  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.espB2  RealisticForceMedium.espB3  RealisticMagicForceHigh.espB4  Vampire Ashes.espB5  spelliconreplace.espB6  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]B7  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]B8  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]B9  attack and hide medium v2.1.espBA  No psychic guards v1.2.esp++  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]BB  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.espBC  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.espBD  DremoraCompanion.esp++  cidnothump.esp++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp++  Life Detected - Skeleton - Tiny - 1.espBE  Get Wet - just droplets.espBF  ScreenControls.esp++  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]C0  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]C1  Bashed Patch, 0.espC2  FormID Finder4.espC3  Streamline 3.0.espC4  Statue Fixer.esp  [Version 1.12]++  Increased Restoration and Mercantile Leveling Rates.espC5  Ragna Parry V2.espC6  GoldenCrestBattlehornComp.espC7  BladeSong.espC8  GoldenCrest.espC9  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]

Ditch MMM Gems and Gem Dust, it is incompatible with OOO.

At least you know the problem is in the bashed patch. Try importing a few mods at a time into the patch until you get the one that breaks it. I know, it will take alot of time since your patch probably takes 5 minutes to rebuild.

Also, I seem to remember way back that one of the UL mods (Arrius creek possibly) caused the crash for me with a tag it had. You may try not importing the tag into your patch from that mod (I think it may have been cells).

Good luck.

Did you move to a new version of Wrye Bash recently - I've had the same issue where I upgraded WB versions, and my old saves would not load and crash right at the loading screens.

I gave up my old game after that, but it hasn't happened since.

Some suggestions on your LO, though these may not be the reasons for your crashing:
19 MIS.esp
1A MIS Low Wind.esp
- These are alternates, use one or the other

16 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
17 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
++ BetterImperfectWater.esp
- Are these 3 compatible with each other?

2A Living Economy.esp
2B Living Economy - Items.esp
- Use Enhanced Economy Instead. LE has issues.

25 Morrowind Ingredients.esp [Version 1.6]
- This is not needed when using COBL

++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
- Use MMM_Cobl instead. This is found in the COBL installation.

++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
- Not needed per corepc. Remove.

++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]
- Not needed. Remove.

C9 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
- Are you sure your LO is BOSSED? This should load much higher with the other ULs. You should BOSS before building the bashed patch. ALSO, READ THE BOSS NOTES. Just BOSSing the Load Order is not enough - BOSS will point out inconsistencies (such as the ones I've noted), and provide recommendations.
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49 ExnemRuneskulls.esp is redundand as is already integrated in latest MMM BSA. Use ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3] instead

Try playing without 02 ScreenEffects.esm - I remember it broke my game when I tried it. For some players it just doesn't work

14 Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp is an old generation weather mod. Strongly recommend All Natural or the lighter Enhanced Weather - both flawless.

16 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp and 17 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp - you cannot have both. Besides there is more modern one - Enhanced Water HDMI which includes SI as well try it.

2B Living Economy - Items.esp is old generation grab latest Enhanced Economy instead.

Merge with TES4Gecko these esps:
34 Classic-Wizard-Robes-U.esp
35 ElegantVests.esp
36 GC Draqed Gowns.esp
37 GC Gowns.esp
38 GCBloodgown.esp
39 GriffinArmor.esp
3A KA_RoseDress.esp
3B KDDwemerSpectacles.esp
3C RavenWearClothing.esp [Version 1.5]
3D ShinobiSet.esp
3E SomeRobes.esp
3F Tegeals Extra Robes.esp
40 Templer-Armor.esp
41 vermillionandsilverthorn.esp
42 Viro's Kung Fu Set.esp
43 WhiteRoseArmor.esp
44 300_Brocade_Outfits.esp
45 darkrosearmor.esp
And you'll save 17 slots.

Did you update 50 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp with latest 1.09 version by Corepc?
Did you update 51 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] with latest updated esp? Check FCOM tread.

B0 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] update to 3.2.0

BB _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp and BC _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp the full esp contains both new races and hairs. Onlyhairs contains no races. But you definitely want only one of those. Choose and reinstall.

Did you turn your mods one by one before rebuilding the patch? Are you victim of the Multiple Mod Activation (MMA) syndrom?
Best way to troubleshoot CTDs: Turn off a few mods at a time and test. As many times as necessary.

I havn't updated Wrye Bash lately so that wouldn't be the problem, I am pretty sure I boss'd everything but I'll do it again once I'm done with this.

Thanks for all the help, Blade I followed your Stable guide and added a few things to my game. I updated, deleted, and replaced all around. I'm going to take a small break so I can get some questions answered.

1. How do I merge with TES4Gecko, I tried numbering the ones I wanted to merge 1,2,3,4,5etc. or 1,1,1,1,1 but it just appears to give me the first plugin.

2. Can someone give me Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls.esp? I don't appear to have the latest version, and updating would be a major hassle so I just want that one esp.

3. Where's the Warcry thread? I can't find it on google or tesnexus.

4. I don't want to use the main part of Living Economy, just the part where it changes item prices. Is it alright to not update to Enhanced Economy in this case?

Now I'll make a bashed patch and try to play, if it doesn't work I'm taking a break until questions are answered thankyou.

I don't mean to double post but I can't edit so...

I'm also updating my BOSS master list which should hopefully help a little bit.

My game is fixed, high five guys. Thanks for helping so much. Thread closed.

Note this isn't a bump, it's just edit is locked at the moment.

Yeah I was a bit overzealous claiming it was working, it crashes still.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1093212-tesivpositive-installation-guides/ or the link for the 50 steps in my signature.
Remember: It is easier to do it from scratch following meticulously the rules than to troubleshoot CTDs and the likes...

The latest version comes with the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1116296-relz-martsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/, which you should have as you're running that version.



http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/875610-oblivion-warcry/

You'll find the latest WarCry in http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1115084-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom-66/ as well - plus the FCOM_WarCry109 release.