Dwarven armor, but no dwarves

Post » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:49 pm

Does anyone find this ironic

I know that there is dwarven armor, but I have never heard of any sign of a dwarf

Is this explained in lore

Could someone help me out

ANd do you think they should bring dwarves into TES V

I think they should, just so I'd know who makes dwarven armor
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sarah simon-rogaume
 
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:13 am

They're all dead =/
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Ells
 
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:12 am

They're all dead =/


Really what happened?
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Gen Daley
 
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:29 am

the dwares death is a mystery look into it on wikipedia or UESP its a big part of the lore especialy in morrowind
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Post » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:34 pm

the dwares death is a mystery look into it on wikipedia or UESP its a big part of the lore especialy in morrowind


wow, now I feel really stupid for putting this up, thanks for telling me,

Is there anyway I can put this down before embarassing myself anymore
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:58 am

the dwares death is a mystery look into it on wikipedia or UESP its a big part of the lore especialy in morrowind


We dont know that they are dead lol.

In TES III Morrowind game they touched on this lore, and all the Dwarven race dissappeared, well all except one (which you get to meet in the morrowind game) the reason for this and how it happened is unknown.

And as far as I know the elderscrolls dwarven race are not like the tolkin dwarven race, they are not vertically challenged individuals, although they are miners as such and they are interested in mechanics and all things mechanical.
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Dan Scott
 
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:45 am

haha idk u can ask a moderater to kill it, im actualy new to the forums im just nerdie when it comes to lore on games i love... did the same thing with warcraft =P
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Post » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:48 pm

wow, now I feel really stupid for putting this up, thanks for telling me,

Is there anyway I can put this down before embarassing myself anymore


Don't beat yourself up. It was a valid question. You had no reason to know that they all just up and dissapeared. I certainly wasn't up to date on the specifics. ;)
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:13 am

I think they should, just so I'd know who makes dwarven armor


I vote no since the Dwemer disapeared along time before, you find out a little bit on morrowind of why that happened and several views of how it happened.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:14 am

The most accepted theory is that they became the gold skin of the Numidium after their attempt to return to the first state of creation, since they were none too happy about being on a lesser gradient than the et'ada.

That'll teach them to divide by zero.

EDIT: Oh, and actually, the term "dwarf" is a misnomer. Their proper name is Dwemer, which roughly means Deep Folk, and they were of average height.
EDIT2: And while they are the closest things to mechanists in the ES universe and they reject magic on the surface, their creations and goals are magic at its core.
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Post » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:38 pm

maybe there was a dwarf (dwemer) hiding in the next elder scrolls maybe he was in a cave frozen in time or just in a house the point is a dwemer could technically be anywhere if they survived although i dont know how they died

ive heard the next elder scrolls will be in skyrim if this is true there could be a frozen dwemer but then again im just making stuff up.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:26 am

maybe there was a dwarf (dwemer) hiding in the next elder scrolls maybe he was in a cave frozen in time or just in a house the point is a dwemer could technically be anywhere if they survived although i dont know how they died

ive heard the next elder scrolls will be in skyrim if this is true there could be a frozen dwemer but then again im just making stuff up.

No; their whole race was un-created, even the ones in Hammerfell who wanted nothing to do with said un-creation. They simply ceased to exist. Save for http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Yagrum_Bagarn. But he is a rare exception, and he was more than likely wiped out by Morrowind's getting pummeled with a rogue moon.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:15 am

They didn't necessarily cease to exist, the uesp states they may have transcended planes. They weren't trying to uncreate themselves IIRC. They were creating a device that was powered by a force beyond thier control, or something alike. They were attempting to ascend to Immortals, again thats IIRC. The reason Yagrum Bagarn was left alive is because he was already outside Nirn's plane of existence. The Dwemer within Mundus, the entire plane on which the Planet Nirn exists; Were either eradicated, transcended as they had planned, descended(like being punished for thier tamperings) to a lesser plane which there is no knowledge of, or simply faked dissapearance in a greater scheme. If TES V is really going to be called shadow realm, as speculated(I'm not trying to speculate i know theres a thread for that, just saying), then i think it to be possible we'll be visiting the Dwemers current realm of existence.

Another point to be made is that since Yagrum Bagarn lived through the dissapearance, not death, it's more than possible other Dwemer have also done such by being in the outer worlds(planes of existence). We as adventurers get to explore the planes of Oblivion in TES IV. There are other such realms; sheogorath's, for example, is one of them. Knowing we are not the only ones in Tamriel who go on daring and exciting adventures (it is a crazy world, admit it), I'm more than sure there were Dwemer in situations which would lead to thier salvation from such a large scale dissapearance(this is speculative assumtion based on intellectual inferences). Maybe thier actually doomed by being stuck on Nirn, while thier brethren are in a paradise realm, but i doubt it.

We don't really know much about why they vanished, we only know a relevant cause. We don't know thier fate either.


PEace
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:11 am

snip


And it's here that I mention that UESP is horrible for lore.
http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/luagararticle1.shtml

EDIT: And Shadow Realm is a name without foundation, spawned by fanmade trailers and spoofing.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:58 am

Everything you need to know: http://www.imperial-library.info/dwemer/
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Richard Thompson
 
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:50 am

Dwarves are Morrowind
Ayleid are Oblivion
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:47 am

It makes me chuckle how dwarfs in the TES series are actually a race of elves. Since most stereotypical dwarfs from other works of fiction hate elves with every fiber of their being.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:06 am

Dwarves are Morrowind
Ayleid are Oblivion

I guess you could make that comparison, since they both left cities of metal and stone behind in relatively good condition, but the Ayleids either died off from Imperial conquest, or just dissipated into other cultures, such as the Bretons and High Elves.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:15 am

all 7 went to go chill with snow white
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Helen Quill
 
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:05 am

for those who want to be a dwarf, just be a wood elf and roleplay that your a dwarf. (this only works for the men)
and instead of raising your stealth skills raise your combat skills.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:01 am

all 7 went to go chill with snow white


HAHA!!! ROFLCOPTER!!
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:15 am

Dwarves are long gone...forget about'em.
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Laura Hicks
 
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Post » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:15 pm

Not much relevant to the Oblivion forums in this thread.
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