Topic.

Basically, my 1st character (which I ended up deleting because I re-specced like 5 times not knowing it costs my 1 of my LV's... LOL), was a Soldier.

I knew that Engineers (my NOW main Character), could give Kevlar out, and those things are actually quite helpful especially if you've got a Medic with you to buff you while you make them tougher AND stronger.

I only noticed this like 3 times now, but Engineer's can still give me Kevlar....even though im supposed to be wearing it? WTF? Clearly it states:

"Kevlar Vest increases your damage resistance while you are a SOLDIER. Enemies equipped with Armor Piercing rounds can still do full damage to you."

and the Engineer...:

"Extra Kevlar allows you to give your Teammates additional Armor protection that lasts until they die. You cannot administer this buff to yourself, OR TO A SOLDIER WHO ALREADY HAS THE KEVLAR ABILITY."

I don't get it, does it actually WORK now? Or has it been noted as a glitch? Cause if it hasn't it should be...

Also, got another glitch for you guys... Engineers Weapon Buffing.

NOW, I have Improved Weapon Buff and I can find myself sometimes giving other charaters (even though they have a DMG Buff already from someone else), and even MORE improved weapon buff? So does that mean my IWB cancels out the lesser one? OR, do they get BOTH DMG upgrades (I think the reg. is 75% increase, and IWB is 100%?). Anyone notice that as well?


DISCUSS!

You need the first one to get the second, AKA YOU GET IT AT THE START, its the same with the turrets you need to purchase the light then the med then the heavy you can't go straight to heavy. common scents and an ability to read the descriptions. The kevlar is not a glitch its a damage depressant that works quite well, a soldier with it reduces the amount of supply the engie has to use to buff the squad. any other questions post. BTW awesome game, but the low fps rate has its moments. :brokencomputer:
I was just being sarcastic at the start but seriously :flamethrower:

Speaking of which has the soldier kevlar vest actually been confirmed to work?

I seem to remeber the devs saying that the soldier kevlar would be exactly the same as what engineers give, and it woulld give the exact same buff, how ever the buff icon is not there and personally I don't feel anymore durable then when on my engineer or operative.

I also have to question Armor piercing rounds, from what I can tell they are not actually doing full dmg to kevlared players.

Is it possible that the soldier's kevlar isn't showing up as a buff because it comes from an ability and not a buff?

And you still get the engineer's kevlar because that buff slot (not ability) is open?

Thats just speculation though.

Hopefully some testers will...run some tests on the subject.

Is it possible that the soldier's kevlar isn't showing up as a buff because it comes from an ability and not a buff?

Maybe every single person shooting our Kevlar'd up Soldiers is using Ammo Piercing Rounds.

Honestly, I had forgotten I got the ability when I went back to play, so I don't have any frame of reference to how fast I died prior to getting Kevlar. I do recall when I am buffed by an Engineer I can usually tell the difference though.

Is there a way to tell if you are being shot by AP rounds or not? I know if you shoot somebody with Kevlar it sparks and makes a muffled sound. But what about the person being shot? Anything different on that end?

I suspect the soldier's kevlar buff does not work. I mean, it makes me more confident, but I'm not sure its doing anything other than soaking up an ability.

Well since only soldier can use armor piercing rounds that is kinda of the table Tommy.

And no I can tell no diffrence when fighting soldiers, they do not kill me any faster then other classes.

I really belive that those 2 skills arnt working as they should.

Regular is 18% increase. Improved is 31% increase. Kevlar Buff gives a 10% damage resistance. So if you get hit by 10 damage, a kevlar buff would cause you to take 9 damage.

An engineers weapon buff is far more useful than his armor buff, and his armor buff should only be used when the squad has already had all their weapons buffed. Or if you are trying to make a heavy totally indestructible.

My source for this is the Brink Strategy Guide by David Hodgeson.

Regular is 18% increase. Improved is 31% increase. Kevlar Buff gives a 10% damage resistance. So if you get hit by 10 damage, a kevlar buff would cause you to take 9 damage.

An engineers weapon buff is far more useful than his armor buff, and his armor buff should only be used when the squad has already had all their weapons buffed. Or if you are trying to make a heavy totally indestructible.

My source for this is the Brink Strategy Guide by David Hodgeson.

They have mixed emotions about the subject even over there. I'm praying either here or SD that a Dev will reply and confirm for us all somehow. I just really don't get how a Soldier can be given Kevlar... if they already have it on?