» Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:20 pm That is evil. There's no grey morality about it. I already said, where the NCR would possibly make a protectorate of a town - the Legion will destroy it. The NCR is comprised mostly of volunteers, and its core resources probably come in from the many settlements flying its flag, identifying themselves as a part of the NCR. Towns that aren't taken or made protectorates are left to fend for themselves. The Legion destroys towns, destroys the occupants it can't use, and makes slaves of anyone based on who is deemed worthy and who is not, those deemed unworthy are killed.
Nipton in the Mojave was put to the torch because one member of the town sold information to the Legion, (he was deemed disloyal and so Nipton was deemed a den of disloyalty ripe for the purge), this wastelander said the town was full of wh ores and criminals. Maybe he was turned down for a turn by the local beauty and he resented it? Maybe he resented the possessions the other settlers had that he did not? Whatever his motivation (I suspect they were the attitude you promote and that I agree with to an extent - he was out for himself and looking to improve his circumstances) the Legion used his word and destroyed Nipton, and did so in the most calculated, and brutal way possible.
The NCR doesn't do that. I get you're not a Legion fan boy, but if you read through your previous posts (morality is subjective) you'll see that you were trying to blur the boundaries of morality, of what constitutes good and evil, and what can in fact be called 'grey'. The Legions methods, obviously are anything but, they're clear, crystal clear.
They have committed a crime to get there though. A basic crime breaking laws we all understand. Harsh environment the Wasteland is prisoner welfare is fairly low on the agenda. I reckon a few people will be falsely imprisoned (they are today, loss of liberty would kill me, forget labour), others will have committed crimes because they didn't have a choice - hunger - but that's out of sight goodness compared to the Legions acquisition of slaves, which is exactly akin to the slave trade with blacks. NCR is like a colony with colonial outback law, not even contemplating anything like the slave-taking habits of the Legion.
Nipton in the Mojave was put to the torch because one member of the town sold information to the Legion, (he was deemed disloyal and so Nipton was deemed a den of disloyalty ripe for the purge), this wastelander said the town was full of wh ores and criminals. Maybe he was turned down for a turn by the local beauty and he resented it? Maybe he resented the possessions the other settlers had that he did not? Whatever his motivation (I suspect they were the attitude you promote and that I agree with to an extent - he was out for himself and looking to improve his circumstances) the Legion used his word and destroyed Nipton, and did so in the most calculated, and brutal way possible.
The NCR doesn't do that. I get you're not a Legion fan boy, but if you read through your previous posts (morality is subjective) you'll see that you were trying to blur the boundaries of morality, of what constitutes good and evil, and what can in fact be called 'grey'. The Legions methods, obviously are anything but, they're clear, crystal clear.
They have committed a crime to get there though. A basic crime breaking laws we all understand. Harsh environment the Wasteland is prisoner welfare is fairly low on the agenda. I reckon a few people will be falsely imprisoned (they are today, loss of liberty would kill me, forget labour), others will have committed crimes because they didn't have a choice - hunger - but that's out of sight goodness compared to the Legions acquisition of slaves, which is exactly akin to the slave trade with blacks. NCR is like a colony with colonial outback law, not even contemplating anything like the slave-taking habits of the Legion.
I understand that could be considered evil, but the alternate is death. If you disobey the Legion you are punished and others made to watch. Or maybe you and part of your squad are punished and others made to watch. I forget. Regardless, the protection of yourself is one of the most morally right things to do, as far as I am concerned.
They commit evil to towns that tell them they won't join. If you join the woman and weak are made slaves and the rest are enlisted in the army. The woman are probably pretty bad off, but the rest are fed, watered and sheltered.
