T.V

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:25 pm

I in almost every good intro to fallout, they always have that nice polished Radiation king radio or television.

I mean, really, can they give us a practical use for it. I want my own radio , my own ham radio, and i want a working T.V!!!!!!!

There are all those fission batteries and televisons lying around. I mean, there has to be some kind of functioning network, an enclave propaganda channel, a brotherhood enlistment commercial, or even GNR news. I mean, come on Beth, you did a great job on everything , but I hope that you implement a working T.V in fallout some time.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:35 pm

Methinks there can't Be A Fully functional T.V made, not with this "Crappy" Game engine...
Although there can be a sort of Cinema...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:14 pm

A working TV isn't going to be much good without someone out there broadcasting something, though... Radio is one thing, but I'd have trouble imagining someone out there in the Wasteland with nothing better to do than produce a TV program. :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:25 pm

A working TV isn't going to be much good without someone out there broadcasting something, though... Radio is one thing, but I'd have trouble imagining someone out there in the Wasteland with nothing better to do than produce a TV program. :)


Three dog would certainly hire a few brotherhood svckers to do the program for him.
The enclave definitely want to have influence with the "pure" remnants of the wasteland population for recruitment.
The brotherhood need more idiots to join them so they can use them as meat fodder as Elder Lyons rots like an old banana.
Talon company to get the word around that they are taking up ANY contracts.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:46 pm

I hardly think that after a HUGE nuclear exchange, and years of doing nothing but surviving, someone is going to take the time to make a television program or something like that, and accomplish nothing. I mean its a Nuclear Apocalypse, why would someone waste their time working on a T.V. show, and not be out there actually trying to make some Caps or something like that.

I think your idea of having your personal Ham Radio would be nice, but it should be at your house or shack. Not being carried around. And maybe when you make friends out in the wasteland who have a Ham Radio, you could communicate with them when your miles away from each other. Like if I was in Rivet City, and for some reason I wanted to speak with Dave in The Republic of Dave, I could rather than just fast travel or walk/jog all the way there, I could just sit down at the old Ham Radio, and tune in onto his radio frequency. That would be interesting?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:30 pm

TV would require a lot more resources to broadcast, a lot more power too.

And a TV is harder to construct/maintain. Its also not about a TV, there's cameras, microphones, recording equipment, etc.

That said, I could see this being reintroduced in NCR, and Vault City (with VC using their computer network to "broadcast", like modern cable)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:33 pm

I hardly think that after a HUGE nuclear exchange, and years of doing nothing but surviving, someone is going to take the time to make a television program or something like that, and accomplish nothing. I mean its a Nuclear Apocalypse, why would someone waste their time working on a T.V. show, and not be out there actually trying to make some Caps or something like that.

I think your idea of having your personal Ham Radio would be nice, but it should be at your house or shack. Not being carried around. And maybe when you make friends out in the wasteland who have a Ham Radio, you could communicate with them when your miles away from each other. Like if I was in Rivet City, and for some reason I wanted to speak with Dave in The Republic of Dave, I could rather than just fast travel or walk/jog all the way there, I could just sit down at the old Ham Radio, and tune in onto his radio frequency. That would be interesting?


The radio Idea I like it, BRILLIANT!!!!

But I think that T.V is the perfect excuse to bring more recruits into a major organization.

Enclave . BOS. NCR. VC. You get the idea.

I never said I wanted to carry a ham radio lol
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:49 pm

Three dog would certainly hire a few brotherhood svckers to do the program for him.
The enclave definitely want to have influence with the "pure" remnants of the wasteland population for recruitment.
The brotherhood need more idiots to join them so they can use them as meat fodder as Elder Lyons rots like an old banana.
Talon company to get the word around that they are taking up ANY contracts.

There's another problem here, though. Especially concerning the logistics and usefulness of a TV broadcast.

See, a radio is a fairly simple piece of technology. If someone blew up my neighborhood, I'd likely be able to salvage enough stuff to put together a basic radio reciever, MacGyver-style. And it's not going to take much to power it. It's also a very useful communication source - all these ham radios your find points to a degree of communication between the various settlements. It's fair, I think, to assume that this is how most places communicate and exchange news back and forth.

A TV set is much more complicated to build. And it's not something the average person is going to be able to put together. It's also moderately dangerous to try to do so (I used to work part-time at a PC repair center. There were a number of safeguards you needed to take into account when opening up a PC, but it was mostly to protect the computer from yourself. You had to be specifically qualified to even touch a PC monitor - there's the potential for a dangerous amount of static buildup in a TV set or monitor.) The number of still-working TVs is going to be a lot less than the chances of finding a radio that's undamaged enough to repair.

And the energy requirements for a TV are much higher. If you're a small settlement just struggling to survive; and assuming you could even get a reliable enough source of power for a TV set - you're going to have better things to do with that power than sit around watching TV all day. :) A radio can run a couple batteries for quite a while. If all you're doing it listening in, then you can relatively simply rig a hand-crank to store enough energy to listen for a good while. Basically, there's not going to be a whole lot of people with the time and resources to bother with getting a TV working, even assuming there was something worth watching.

The resources for putting together a TV broadcast are even higher. It's much higher power to transmit, and requires a good deal more technology as well. Why go through all that effort when you're not even going to be reaching more than one or two very rich, powerful, and resourceful people in the whole Wasteland?

If the Enclave wanted to spread propaganda through TV signals - they'd have to also distribute the TVs to watch them on (along with a built-in power source.) When a radio is something everyone already has - it doesn't seem worth the effort to do much of anything with TV. (Not to mention that we're dealing with a devestated Wasteland - once you start adding luxuries you're moving farther from the "post-apocalyptic" genre, and more into another genre entirely.)

Now, of course, Fallout isn't about realism. If Bethesda said "everyone watches TV in the Wasteland," then that's what it's going to be. But I still don't think it makes very much sense. It might be kind of a neat sidequest if you picked up a TV signal on your PipBoy during your explorations - maybe some repeating emergency broadcast - and then tracked down the source to find an abandoned broadcast tower filled with skeletons and some operator who managed to die with his hand over the "transmit" button, or something. Just to be honest, though (and not trying to shoot down your idea, just giving my two cents) I just don't think working TVs as a common element in the Wastes would make much sense to me.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:22 pm

The way I see it, I think Vault City is going to skip TV and go right ahead inventing the internet! :D
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:53 pm

There's another problem here, though. Especially concerning the logistics and usefulness of a TV broadcast.

See, a radio is a fairly simple piece of technology. If someone blew up my neighborhood, I'd likely be able to salvage enough stuff to put together a basic radio reciever, MacGyver-style. And it's not going to take much to power it. It's also a very useful communication source - all these ham radios your find points to a degree of communication between the various settlements. It's fair, I think, to assume that this is how most places communicate and exchange news back and forth.

A TV set is much more complicated to build. And it's not something the average person is going to be able to put together. It's also moderately dangerous to try to do so (I used to work part-time at a PC repair center. There were a number of safeguards you needed to take into account when opening up a PC, but it was mostly to protect the computer from yourself. You had to be specifically qualified to even touch a PC monitor - there's the potential for a dangerous amount of static buildup in a TV set or monitor.) The number of still-working TVs is going to be a lot less than the chances of finding a radio that's undamaged enough to repair.

And the energy requirements for a TV are much higher. If you're a small settlement just struggling to survive; and assuming you could even get a reliable enough source of power for a TV set - you're going to have better things to do with that power than sit around watching TV all day. :) A radio can run a couple batteries for quite a while. If all you're doing it listening in, then you can relatively simply rig a hand-crank to store enough energy to listen for a good while. Basically, there's not going to be a whole lot of people with the time and resources to bother with getting a TV working, even assuming there was something worth watching.

The resources for putting together a TV broadcast are even higher. It's much higher power to transmit, and requires a good deal more technology as well. Why go through all that effort when you're not even going to be reaching more than one or two very rich, powerful, and resourceful people in the whole Wasteland?

If the Enclave wanted to spread propaganda through TV signals - they'd have to also distribute the TVs to watch them on (along with a built-in power source.) When a radio is something everyone already has - it doesn't seem worth the effort to do much of anything with TV. (Not to mention that we're dealing with a devestated Wasteland - once you start adding luxuries you're moving farther from the "post-apocalyptic" genre, and more into another genre entirely.)

Now, of course, Fallout isn't about realism. If Bethesda said "everyone watches TV in the Wasteland," then that's what it's going to be. But I still don't think it makes very much sense. It might be kind of a neat sidequest if you picked up a TV signal on your PipBoy during your explorations - maybe some repeating emergency broadcast - and then tracked down the source to find an abandoned broadcast tower filled with skeletons and some operator who managed to die with his hand over the "transmit" button, or something. Just to be honest, though (and not trying to shoot down your idea, just giving my two cents) I just don't think working TVs as a common element in the Wastes would make much sense to me.


hehe. I understand.

But two cents back at ya!!!!

uno. cold fusion tech has made everything almost power-endless. A T.V can run on a fission battery for well over a few years
dos. If you look at the game world, almost every settlement has some sort of T.V in it. Its just that the screen is cracked. But the t.v is not ruined.


Just my 2 cents.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:52 pm

hehe. I understand.

But two cents back at ya!!!!

uno. cold fusion tech has made everything almost power-endless. A T.V can run on a fission battery for well over a few years
dos. If you look at the game world, almost every settlement has some sort of T.V in it. Its just that the screen is cracked. But the t.v is not ruined.


Just my 2 cents.


First: Where are you going to find the wires and cables that are connected to telephone poles etc. and thread them through out the Capital Wasteland or where ever to each TV.

Second: Where are you going to find the parts for the large TV Camera's (If any TV Cameras are around) that they used back in the 50's so you can broadcast your show or what ever it might be. Back in the 50's they didn't have hand held camera's like today, so those are out of the question.

Third: Since it's after a Nuclear Apocalypse, and everything is very simple and not overly complicated to use or make. Who is going to have the know how to make the whole system thing work. I think one of the last things people are going to be worrying about after 200+ years of living in a wasteland, is how to get their television's running and working.

Just look at Manya in Megaton. Their whole town is just a bunch of junked Airliners, and they didn't even think about trying to fix them up or try and get them working again. Same with all the F-80's at Rivet City. No one, not Pinkerton, Lee or any computer or mechanical genius thought: "Hay lets fix these old planes up, and use them for our own advantage against Super Mutants etc." No, their not thinking about that. They're thinking more on how to protect themselfs from the crazy wasteland. The fixing of TV's would just be a waste of time since no one has the know how in the first place.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:19 pm

First: Where are you going to find the wires and cables that are connected to telephone poles etc. and thread them through out the Capital Wasteland or where ever to each TV.

Second: Where are you going to find the parts for the large TV Camera's (If any TV Cameras are around) that they used back in the 50's so you can broadcast your show or what ever it might be. Back in the 50's they didn't have hand held camera's like today, so those are out of the question.

Third: Since it's after a Nuclear Apocalypse, and everything is very simple and not overly complicated to use or make. Who is going to have the know how to make the whole system thing work. I think one of the last things people are going to be worrying about after 200+ years of living in a wasteland, is how to get their television's running and working.

Just look at Manya in Megaton. Their whole town is just a bunch of junked Airliners, and they didn't even think about trying to fix them up or try and get them working again. Same with all the F-80's at Rivet City. No one, not Pinkerton, Lee or any computer or mechanical genius thought: "Hay lets fix these old planes up, and use them for our own advantage against Super Mutants etc." No, their not thinking about that. They're thinking more on how to protect themselfs from the crazy wasteland. The fixing of TV's would just be a waste of time since no one has the know how in the first place.



* Rips hair out in disbelief of your heretical response* Now I am going to rip the living moth-balls out of your [censored]e-maker you little trouble-maker!!!!

1. Pinkerton is working on Commonwealth tech. He got out Harkness'es memory chip. He is like a kid in a candy shop. A candy shop of massively powerful gumballs full of tera-bytes of data that is.

2. Many people in Rivet city can't come up with the replacement parts for the damn planes.

3. The Brotherhood and Enclave would be damn interested because everyone has a T.V. Cracked screen or not. They all work, its just a damn crack!!!!
The Brotherhood doesn't need the amazing know how of Pinkerton to recover a few Deans electronic's books or use the Big book of science for assembly.

And the cameras. Did the pitt ring a bell. Ashur is rebuilding and he has tons of machinery on assembly. Even though he hates the brotherhood, the Brotherhood could offer him some tempting rewards. Power armor?

And the Wastelanders have fixed T.V's to watch. And since the use of satellites other than for war is void.

My 5 cents.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:39 am

You don't know that they work though, they could be hollow on the inside or something? And just because Ashur is rebuilding, doesn't mean he has any TV cameras. And if Pinkerton and the others wanted to fix the TV's and put all the effort in building a wire and cable network through out the wasteland to connect every single TV in the wasteland that was in a settlement, and find some TV Camera's I'm sure they would have. Like I said, 200+ years in a wasteland, and no one is fixing TV's. I think its very very very low on their list of things to do.

So I think TV's will just be an ammusemant to look at in Fallout, rather actually working.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:35 pm

You don't know that they work though, they could be hollow on the inside or something? And just because Ashur is rebuilding, doesn't mean he has any TV cameras. And if Pinkerton and the others wanted to fix the TV's and put all the effort in building a wire and cable network through out the wasteland to connect every single TV in the wasteland that was in a settlement, and find some TV Camera's I'm sure they would have. Like I said, 200+ years in a wasteland, and no one is fixing TV's. I think its very very very low on their list of things to do.

So I think TV's will just be an ammusemant to look at in Fallout, rather actually working.


*Puts on a smeagle voice*

NEVA!!!!!!!!!

I WILL HAVE T.V!!!!!!

*Pulls out colonel autumn's Laser pistol*

75 damage, muahahahahah

Wait, Broken steel nerfed the damage to 18.

[censored]-tots.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:07 pm

*Puts on a smeagle voice*

NEVA!!!!!!!!!

I WILL HAVE T.V!!!!!!

*Pulls out colonel autumn's Laser pistol*

75 damage, muahahahahah

Wait, Broken steel nerfed the damage to 18.

[censored]-tots.


Maybe if you make a mod or something. That's all I can really do to get your hopes up for a working TV.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:35 pm

The way I see it, I think Vault City is going to skip TV and go right ahead inventing the internet! :D


VC likely already has an intranet, and being fairly isolationist would have little interest in an internet.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:42 pm

VC likely already has an intranet, and being fairly isolationist would have little interest in an internet.

But they still have internet. Though they have to fire that poor guy who is head of the Information Center. He really love his books.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:07 am

But they still have internet. Though they have to fire that poor guy who is head of the Information Center. He really love his books.


No, thats an Intranet, assuming its networked. An Internet is a Network of Networks.

Just because a computer has scans of manuals doesnt make in an internet - It just makes it a computer with eBooks.
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