Ok so we know how well skyrim is going to be compared to oblivion, but screen shots aren't the only thing that can show a difference. So check out these two clips. (btw im not the owner of the channel, nor do I know him)

Walking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKCerijbsW8

Sneaking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBWrCSIXpnE

Skyrim Anims > Oblivions from what we've seen so far...easily.

You don't know good ol' Luke Skyrimmer? :wacko:

the one in the trailor is incredible where a bandit swings his sword around.. those animations are way more impressive than OB here is the link of the guy making the move http://elderscrolls.com/ go to about 1:34

is that you?

And yet they still look decidedly off.

It may be me, but I cringe a bit every time I see Mr Permafrost-Is-Too-Hot-To-Wear-A-Shirt draw his sword in the trailer.

Nords have resistance to cold weather.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1193525-how-improved-is-the-3rd-person-view/

skyrim? duh, thats kinda a no brainer. bgs has had to make animation a main priority because too many casual gamers go "eeeewwwwww" if it doesn't look the newest in the industry and its been a problem since MW where people would look at the game and say its the worst ever without ever once taking in consideration for the content.

there is no way SK animations are not going to be as up to date as they pretty much can be.

these are two different topics this is comparing animations that is 1st to third person?

He probably is a Nord indeed. Still I don't see a reason why that armor would include a shirt for other races.

Animations aren't that broad a subject.

Not another one of you. A game can't look good AND be deep? We are not as hardcoe or as cool as you if we want a game that looks the part AND plays the part right? Seriously, if you hate good animation and graphics sooo much, why not play dungeons and dragons? It has all the depth of the Elder Scrolls, and none of the pesky graphics to hamper your fun...

????? I don't even know what context you are basing that off of. I said that SK was going to have the best graphics there can be while its in development, so I don't know what you want from me man. but I sure don't appreaciate some on saying "oh no not another one of you" as if having a different opinion gave you the right to devalue it.

Yep, mrpantsleeve is our very own Luke Skyrimmer

He has cool vids too, especially the unofficial theme vid

I'd kind of expect that, really, because from past experience, while the animations of Bethesda's games tend to be inferior to some other games on the market at their time, they still have been improving over time. Oblivion's animations for example were certainly nothing I'd call good, but I'd at least say they looked better than the ones in Morrowind, and the addition of animations for eating, sitting, sleeping and such was a nice idea, even if most of them were only used in NPCs. And Fallout 3, I'd say is another step up from Oblivion, as to New Vegas, it's not really relevant since it wasn't made by Bethesda, and therefore dues not allow us to judge how Bethesda's animations have progressed.

So I don't see any reason to doubt Skyrim's animations will be an improvement over Oblivion's, the question is, how big an improvement will it be? Because even if it's an improvement over past Bethesda games, it's still not going to impress people if it doesn't look as good as its competitors. When it comes to business, it's not enough to outdo yourself if you're still behind your competitors. Not that I believe Skyrim won't be successful if it does not have good animations, because past Bethesda games never needed to rely on that to succeed, I'm simply saying that I'm not willing to expect Skyrim to have great animations, that's all.



Too bad Skyrim DOESN'T have the best graphics possible so what you said isn't true anyway, I've already played games that look better than Skyrim, and the game isn't even released yet, Crysis for example has better graphics, not that I'm saying it's a better game than Skyrim, the two games are completely different, but I don't have to feel a game is better than Skyrim to acknowledge that, speaking purely in visual terms, it impresses me more than the screenshots and trailer I've seen of Skyrim. I also know that it's not an open world game, but I would not say that Skyrim's graphics are the limits of what an open world game can do with modern technology either, but that doesn't matter too much. A game doesn't necessarilty need to have the best graphics on the market to look good, and for me, it's enough that the game look good as far as graphics are concerned, I don't expect or demand that it be the next Crysis, and really, I think the only people who are going to complain that the graphics of Skyrim aren't good enough are PC gamers with top of the line PCs that support DirectX 11 and tessellation and whatever other impressive new effects people like to go on about, and don't have a chance to use their PCs to their fullest with Skyrim, and compared to the console markets, that's probably a reletively small audience.

I never meant to say that it will have the BEST graphics of all the industry, just that they will use the best that they can develope the game with. they are not going to cut back on the graphics department because its something they have been reamed over unjustly by possible consumers simply because of the way the graphics of the game look. they'll use the best graphics that they can so no one can say they did not do the best they could.