A bit of a silly yet serious question; How long would the Boomers Bomber actually be 'operable' in the Fallout time scale? I mean sure you have the fuel of the Air-force base but who are you going to use on it?

Since by each ending if you allow them to get the Bomber; they have he powah to destroy nearly every city in the NCR and who knows what Ceaser has.

That and what do you think the Boombers are going to use their big bomber for anyway? Since they're xenophobic as the BOS but on a times 10 pyscho increase now that they have a Bomber.

The efficacy of "city bombing" ala WWII style has been proven less than desirable.

Airplanes don't take towns. Grunts take towns. You need feet on the ground, even today.

-Gunny out.

I doubt they have that much fuel, bombs and howitzer ammo to take on the whole NCR or Legion, and they know it. Besides in both possible endings for them they do come to interact with the "savages" with other ways than bombing them.

The Boomers are low on missles so I am sure they are low on everything else. Fuel they use could be biodiesel or Ethanol, if they are using some fossil fuel left on the base then they will runout at some point.

Also .46ACP is right air power does not win wars, you need boots on the ground. If the Booms try to attack New Vegas I am sure Mr.House has the power to shoot it down. He was able to take out the nukes aimed at Vegas. The only runway the boomers have is at their base. They are limited to how far they can go. Sooner or later it will crash, law of averages.

But they don't have airpower until Volare in which in all cases Boomers are either A; left alone or B; do some type of trade with the "Savages" (except the Coruier in the savage they like apperantly). Though it seems kinda silly to put air-power when the whole world was destroyed on the need for fuel.

Not like Nellis Air-force base has a supply of command consoles in order to gain all these oil supplies. And then theres those other dozens of planes at Mc-Caaran Airforce base.

I usually think of this because you can threaten our old dear general Oliverby saying "well I'll tell the Bombers to go bomb Vault city!"

They're Boomers. They love to blow things up, and they likely don't plan too far ahead. They just want to fly around and watch the fireworks beneath.

They have a barrack full of bio-fuel, just letting you know.

Yes, but how well is a B29 going to fly on bio-fuel instead of high-octane aviation fuel?

Also, can they produce enough fuel fast enough? A B29 has four engines of 2200 to 3700 horse power each, burning half a litre of fuel per horse power per hour of flight. Do the math

The Boomers have a thirty years supply of missiles Styles.

Though you're right that is a limited supply for their needs.

The gist is I think the Boomers want it just to use it.

A pathological need is instilled in them to.

A. Protect the home land of Nellis...

B. Blow the formaldehyde out of every one else for kicks, and to make stuff go boom and....

C. Take to the skies.

One ending has them forming trade with others, but by and large they just want to fly around going.

Neeeahhh, kaaa kaaa chew pew pew pew, boooooom.

Yeah, of all the planes out there they dig up some WWII bomber that's been under water for 300 years? :whistling:

You'd think that at an old Air force base they'd be able to eventually repair one of the old planes that was already there.

Presumably they missing some vital part but basically, yeah, you're right.

And it occurred to me after getting the history lesson from that kid, that maybe helping them wasn't really such a good idea.

Nuking Megaton and the Citadel worked wonders. Bombing any other town would work the same way. In today's world, if a a place got bombed, you'd have white knights galloping to the rescue, but not in Fallout. If, say for example, Camp McCarran got bombed, that place would be done. Some troops would survive, yes, but McCarran would be useless.

Think size. Megaton was miniscule, not a town, more a hamlet, the Citadel was absolutely tiny as well.

A city? An actual city? Using a single bomber on a city is about as effective as throwing mud at a wild bear. Fun and it makes cool noises but in the end you're just gonna piss it off. Of course in Fallout many areas are destroyed, smaller places could be successfully bombed but actual to scale cities would laugh off the attack of a bomber (ok, it would hurt and it wouldn't be funny, but it wouldn't devastate anything).

Assuming, of course, it isn't shot down. House has the tech, the BoS likely do and I'd be surprised if the NCR didn't have a few weapons kicking around that could shoot down a rusty old bird.

A vertibird could shoot it down, and the NCR have many. They also have artillery, so I'm sure they have AAA too. Using biofuel the Boomers are not going to get the perfomance out of the B-29 that they would with Avgas. It would be slower, and not be able to fly as high or far. I'm sure it would still have the range to reach the boneyard and back, but it would be flying low. It would be spotted, the NCR have radios and would use them to hunt the bomber down. The Boomers would be smart to only use it on troop columns headed their way and enemy forward operating bases. Think of the damage they could do to the Fort. Napalm bombs....

Are we really debating the fuel efficency of using Biofuels on a 300 year old plane? Just saying, the Fallout explaination of how they will keep it fuelled is they make their own and presumabely convert the B-29 to run on it. In terms of Fallout law that's enough, we aren't really going to say they'll only use it once or twice before they run out of fuel because of fuel consumtion rate or efficiency, Obsidian cross there t and dotted their i by saying they make their own and should the Boomers ever reappear or be mentioned I'm guessing nothing about running out of fuel will be mentioned.

As for their obvious and un-concealed desire to bomb [censored]? If it bothers you don't help them, didn't me, I hope they continue to bomb the NCR even after Caeser takes the Dam, NCR bastards.

Why not? We debate ballistics, armor protection, viability of 200 year old food, radiation mutation, whether or not racist genocidal organizations make for a good government, so why not this?

That's what sold me on them.....the idea of watching Caesar's camp being pulverized by a rain of 500lb bombs was so cool I couldn't not love them.


Oh....House has the ABM lasers on the Lucky 38 tower, and there is a working AAA gun at the Dam. They could bring that B-29 down if they had to.

lol, so true.

It didn't seem to me like the people you meet at Nellis are really crazy conquering/empire building types. They seem like pretty regular folks, and their leaders are pretty nice and level headed. They have just the one bomber which is a great tactical advantage in the single battle --and looks awesome --but to make an expansionist threat believable, they do need the boots. And from looking at a couple of recent wars, not only do you need boots to take a city, you need a hell of a lot of boots to keep it more than a month or two. The Boomers just don't seem like the types...

That and they'd probably need more then a single B-29 Bomber to fully fufill their dreams. That is if they really cling to it that much even if you/NCR/House/CL wins.

Espically if they could have an efficent bio-fuel for their bomber and only use spare-parts from a 'show' bomber then they could be potential for the military of whosever choice. But then they'd have to be integrated into that military, which the NCR and Ceaser's Legion seem to fail at if they win.

They tell you they want to kill everyone so that's what they plan on doing.