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the new vegas story is awesome i agree, the quests are good, obsidian made a lot of improvements over FO3, more quests, a lot better skill/perk/special system, more weapons etc, i would like more in game changes, when i hear people going, "there's so many changes at the end you can't continue it would be impossible for them to do all that" the problem with that is the alternative is there are no changes anyway except imaginary ones, so i think the next fallout needs to not have some huge game changing ending quest because it really means you don't get to play the game, so i prefer less actual in game changes with the ability to keep playing over huge changes that are impossible to execute in the game.

I found the battle to be small and i found the final boss to be very easy because he tries to melee you all day..ballistic fist solved him

The NCR put up a better fight than them legion fools.

I completly agree with this NOTHING changes when you complete the any quest Helios one actully dosent turn any lights on,helping novac dosent change anything,evrything that changers is listed in the end cutscene which 80% of them would make the game way better the ending just ends with a death or a little bit of chat.How are you going to chat your way out of killing a main Army leader?

And Mr.House and independant game endings are practicaly identical.

The storyline is very good but the ending(s) are bad.

My favorite ending was when I went Independent and had Yes Man toss General Oliver off the Hoover Dam.

Greatest moment in the entire game, I'd say.

Though I agree on Helios One, the Novac one is one of the many were immediate change doesn't make sense. You helped the town by opening up one of it's main economic reason of existence. Sure you could send some people over the the REPCONN test site, but really who checks back at that thing after they are done. It adds little.

Also proper punctuation is your friend. I can hardly make heads or tail of what you are saying after Novac.
If I'm right about what you said, I ask you what did you expect from the ending? What were you supposed to do, other than talking an army leader out of attacking or killing said leader?

To me, Lanius was nothing but a rabid dog that needed to be put out of his...not to mention the Mojave's.....misery.

I did a Legion run and finally got to see inside Lanius's tent....the maniac spent most of NV sacrificing NCR prisoners and women slaves to Caesar in the hopes he would finally let him attack the Dam. Most likely he eats the corpses afterward, too. I could see why some people wanted to join the Enclave in FO3...I would have tried the questline at least once myself....but only a psychotic or someone deep in denial could actually want to install the collection of misogynists, cannibals, sadists and out-and-out perverts that is the Legion as rulers of the Mojave.

Endings are kinda good but need to be thought-out more in terms of what exactly happens.

Though they never do explain what happens after years of said chaos, peace, annexation, conquest, etc. Perhaps there'd be too much to tell, although a true Fallout-ending would come out of it. I mean, seriously, anyone remember how many exact endings were in the original fallout with all your choices?

Obsidian is surely getting at that one moment of ultimate nostalgia with a new Fallout game, though they need to work on it more. Espically when they make the vauge endings, where you are nothing but an anomoly and they focus on the said quests or events after the Legions ROLFSTOMP on the Mojave during the Second Battle at Hoover Damn. (Like Novac just gets helped by Bright Followers, no matter if you increased their coordinites though it does matter if you go with a Legion end-game play. Or where HELIOS One can only be had by the Brotherhood or it gets no ending at all, which you can experience if you leave the Defense system activated.)

Also; "Their coming out of the walls!"

I didn't mind the sacrifices that much, since it was in keeping with the Roman religious tradition (albeit they usually used goats) that appeasing the gods prior to battle was very important.

What I did mind was the actual fight across and inside the dam, since it was heavily rigged in the Legion's favor. If you side with the NCR you fight Praetorians and Vexilarii, whereas if you side with the Legion your only opposition is average NCR grunts aside from one Veteran sniper on one of the towers. The only time I had any serious opposition was while chasing after General Oliver after talking him into leaving, and even then there were a total of four PA-wearers using second-class weaponry and a couple of Veterans (one of those did have an AMR, though).

I didn't even have to attack anyone on the way across the dam, since the NCR troops were stationed in ones and twos and were easily swarmed by the group of 8 Legionaries who were on point, whereas when I did the NCR run I had to do most of the killing since I had the only high-powered weapon not in Legion hands aside from a handful of NCR Veterans inside the dam with their Sequoias.

In the House and Yes Man endings the Securitrons just stomp all over everyone, however you know that's coming after seeing the demonstration in the basemant of the Lucky 38 so that wasn't really an issue for me. They do keep most of them from following into Lanius' camp, so at least that fight is not a walkover.

That's pretty much my view on them too. Target practice, no more no less. And their assassin squads aren't much more succesful than Talon Company's, and they the Legion too loses an encampment everytime they send one after me :hehe:

I don't really like any of them. I almost liked the ending when Cass was with me, but when she found my room empty (seriously, WTF) it ruined that ending too.

I did all the endings just to get the 360 achievements. :shrug:

I think this game was meant to be played the bad karma way again i did the notice the ncr was out manned and out numberd until oliver's chase.but still they swarm you with blue sheilds.

I thought the Legion ending was quite hard at the end. I mean you fight two veteran elite rangers who had stuck mines everywhere, then you go upstairs and deal with general oliver, and a bunch of heavy NCR troopers. In the end it actually got difficult

That was the part I mentioned about "...after I had talked General Oliver down...". If you follow him after he leaves you end up in that room full of traps, and that was also where I ran into the Vet toting an AMR. I will assume, since I have not tried it, that if you choose to attack him the same pursuit results and that's what you are describing.

The fight across the top of the dam, as well as the one back across the interior, were fairly lackluster in terms of opposition, almost entirely consisting of outmatched NCR grunts in small numbers with inferior equipment.

Upon further consideration that may have been done to give the assault the feel of the overrun it was supposed to be, since if you give the NCR troops good equipment and have a large proportion of Vets the non-Praetorian Legionaries die in large numbers trying to close to melee range aside from during some of the scripted interior fights (this is based on observations from my NCR run). Even so, I was rather disappointed as I prefer such battles to be on more even terms.

The only time i had a challenge was me and that vet ranger faceing off with AMRs in that office room.The ending was blue sheilds from them LMGs i just standed around the cornor and shot em in the head with this machine.
Getting inside and going over the dam was easy i blazed throu wth a hunting shotgun sadly..

I like all the companions ending screens. It makes me feel like I actually helped the people of the wasteland.

The companion ending for boone wasent to intresting.

I like the ending slides, better than the "lets continue like never happened" of Fallout 3



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