This.

It feels like a modern version of Fallout 2. So in other words, the -real- Fallout 3. B)

gameplay wise its much better than FO3 and oblivion. as for the game engine itself...........its horrible. the graphics are downright ugly by todays standards and it runs like crap. i cant believe that some of these bugs, especially the save issues were not notice. im lucky that it didnt happen to me but that could change at any second and it scares me more than cazadors and deathclaws put together. the biggest positive is that they took at look at the best the modding community had to offer and adopted it into there games. with the new stuff like weaponkits, repair kits, ammo crafting, iron sights, etc. they have literally cut my expected mod list by more than half. frankly im content with just a couple of weapon stat tweaks, darns UI, a mod that reduces global healt (makes everything die sooner including you) and eventually a bunch of texture replacers i will be happy.

I love it but, I have a few complaints:

1: NO random ecounters. I want them back. There's a lot of space for them. They make FO magical.

2: Invisible walls. Do not want.

3. Map is small. Sure it looks big but it's actually small. The edges of the map are deceptively placed. I hope DLC fleshes this out.

Overall the game is amazing but incomplete.

Story wise I think Fallout3 is superior... but content wise I think FNV is, there alot of new things which I like. To be honest I like BOTH FO3 adn FNV jst the same, Im having just as much a blast with FNV as I did with FO3.

The story had it's climix, that's for sure, a big ass robot shooting laz0rs all over the place, throwing mininukes like footballs at "the dirty communists" and then you either save the world or doom the world by inserting or not inserting the FEV at the end.
And show your true colors, are you a hero, willing to sacrifice your own life for the greater good?
Or will you be a complete dike and send in the girl.
The story had it's certain points.
Thing is, to me it was too black and white.
It was always "be goody goody two shoes" or "be EVIL MUHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!".
So I can understand why some like it more, because it has that more "epic" feel to it with the whole "saving the world" thing.
But we've had it in 4 games already, was nice with something different and fresh.

I love the game. I don't give a you-know-what about whether the graphics are up to 2010 standards, or whether the game engine is old, I mean I would still be happily buying Infinity Engine games today as long as the stories were good. I don't care whether there's good lip synching, or any voice acting, or pretty faces. I don't care whether there's realistic physics. I just want good areas to explore, good atmosphere, plenty of quests, opportunities to take sides rather than always play the classic hero in a battle of good vs evil (not that there's anything wrong with that in a classic fantasy setting, but it's not right for Fallout), and a good storyline.

I got everything I could possibly want from a new Fallout game.

Compared to Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, Fallout 3's story seems like bad fanfiction.

Was pumped beyond belief for its release... and loved it for the first day or two.. ....Well, now however, I'm wishing I never wasted $70 on it. Which is sad, because I usually love FO.

The Strip was a major let down.. and the game could've been filled in a lot more. Feels dull/empty lotsa the time.

All I gotta say is there are sooo many moments in NV that has taken me back to the feelings I had in FO1 &2 I love IT!! (the bugs are there but in a weird way adds a nostalgia value too it lol)

Try playing a different kind of character.
It might be more fun the second time around.
My current character which is my first is an EW uses.
But Energy Weapons don't feel as good anymore.
So I'm kinda bored with it.
But I'm really excited to try an Unarmed character.
Found a Zap Glove which was so awesome I thought I was gonna pass out from the awesomeness. (Hah, according to spellcheck, "awesomeness" is a real word)

I agree. Some people are going to be wowed by the huge set pieces in Fallout 3. I have to admit watching Liberty Prime stomp Enclave was kinda fun...even though I could have handled all of them myself with one arm tied behind my back...the giant robot was total overkill.

I get the feeling that there are two types of players when it comes to game stories: the type that enjoys being pulled along for the ride like they're watching an incredibly epic movie with mini-games between scenes and the type that wants the story to be an interactive experience and cares more about nuance and subtlety than big set pieces and shock n' awe. I fall into the latter category, so NV's story is more to my liking. I've played sooooooo many games over 26 years of gaming that I've had enough of the spoon-fed, mostly static stories. I like to see my choices have an effect...in RPGs especially. I personally think that the next big step in gaming isn't going to be more and more photo-realistic graphics, but stories that adapt and environments that morph to the whim of the player. Until then it's just a prettier skin on pretty much the same static interactive movie over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I'll still play the games, but it doesn't give me that much more satisfaction than, say, watching a movie. Games with high levels of consequence of the player's action and interactivity interest me more than the next big graphics breakthrough or the next giant robot stompin'.


I agree. The graphics are fine. In fact, what I'm tired of is playing the same game over and over with progressively better graphics. Soooooo boring. I'd like to see some other aspects of games evolve for a change. You'd think that games would be on a whole new level of interactivity by now since, say, Wolfenstein 3-D, but they're not. Most FPS games are essentially Wolfenstein 3-D with better graphics and maybe vehicle combat if you're lucky. Ok, that's an exaggeration, but not by much. Am I the only one that thinks it's weird that people are willing to play the same games over and over as long as the graphics keep getting prettier, but as soon as a game adds some other type of depth without raising graphical fidelity tons of people complain that they didn't get their money's worth? Sorry, but that's baffling to me.

Anyway, it's to the point now that when I'm reading someone's critique of NV and they mention the graphics I just stop reading. Graphics are nice, sure, but I'm really sick of the obsession with them to the point that it seems like it's all that matters.

I kinda disagree about the energy weapons not being powerful, however I agree that they are no good against Death Claws, maybe and some heavy armored opponents as well, but I’m still having a blast with them (get the perk that makes things blow up when u kill them its a blast pun intended) and I’ve also found some cool unique energy weapons that I used to killed Cesar & his Body guards with (it was tough fight but I pulled it off) But at least we can agree that some melee weapons look sick (chainsaw!) I will have to play a melee guy soon, plus special moves with melee now = :toughninja:

Personally I'm enjoying right now Having fun doing all the quests and exploring.

I have to say "yes", but it's kind of a "thumbs slightly pointing up" kind of thing.

It's what Fallout 3 should have been story wise, and the writing doesn't make you feel like a total moron. There are no "[Intelligence] So you use your voice to fight the good fight?" moments like in Fo3, that just had me facepalming. In fact, the writing is by far the strongest point of the game.

The game itself, though?

+
-Well written. See above.
-Companions are pretty interesting this time around.
-The changes in the gameplay. No longer does someone's peashooter punch right through my power armor. But..see below.

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-It's buggy as all get out. This I expected, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating.
-It may be one of the most restrictive open world games I've ever played. I can understand they don't want you getting to the city of New Vegas too early, but forcing the player along a certain route is not fun. Unkillable enemies (Yes, just try nailing a Deathclaw below level 10. Especially when you're never going to encounter a singular Deathclaw.), rubble blockages, or my personal 'favorite', the invisible wall. Obsidian took the invisible wall concept that was primarily limited to rubble piles in DC in Fo3 and ramped it up to ten, slapping one every five feet along the terrain. See that mountain that would've been climbable in Fo3 or Oblivion? Ha ha, screw you! You can't! Even if it's perfectly scalable there's going to be an invisible wall there. Don't even get me started on the other side of the Colorado, where it's all massive cliffs and even invisible walls on the perfectly approachable beaches along the southern coast of Lake Mead.
-Along the lines of pointless restriction, power armor training is back. Oh, joy. I don't know why Bethesda did it, and I sure as hell don't know why Obsidian kept it. Part of the fun in Fallout 1 and 2 were running for those quests ASAP to grab yourself a suit, even if it was near suicide. The Glow was a challenge, and the Arroyo - San Fran run in 2? That took nerve. In here it takes a long, drawn out quest line to get the training just to wear a suit you might have picked up ten or fifteen hours ago. Plus, the stats are still junk. Remember back in Fallout 1, where the PA gave you like +3 STR? Yeah. PA in NV gives you a stat boost on the same level that regular clothing can boost your PER or AGI. What?
-On that note, no new power armor? Really? No, minor re-skins of Enclave, Tesla, or Brotherhood armor do not count. Imagine my surprise when looting location after location after location turned up nothing but a goose egg. I'd probably still be hunting if I hadn't wised up to look at the Wiki. The armor selection in general is pretty lacking, with reskins or addons of pre-existing Fo3 stuff. There is some pretty nice armor (the NCR Ranger, in particular) but surprise, it's faction locked! Enjoy getting shot at or losing those Karma gains.
-The changes in the gameplay. The enemies can all out-run, out-shoot, and out-damage you. Even my max level character with the Gobi rifle and a perfect stat can't hit reliably as much as the AI can. It seems like every random goon can hit at a range that would make a sharpshooter blush. I know they wanted a challenge, but tweaking the AI to this level is silly. With VATS totally nerfed and the enemies able to run and attack in real time, I'm not sure what the point of the mode is outside of the occasional showoff kill. Even then, it seems like shots outside of VATS do more damage more consistently. This winds up breaking the hell out of the now much more useful Melee and Unarmed.

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-A level in my own personal hell for whoever decided to put rock falls behind every single door in Hidden Valley that wasn't that door. That was seriously a jerk move, especially when it takes a while to keep raising the damn lockpick skill just to be have the equivalent of a giant middle finger pop up every time you open one of the locked doors.

On finding the game hard? My housemate (Non-gamer - TV buff) reckons I should go back on the medication. Yes in Australia there is pill for screaming like a Banshee when you're bum-rushed by four or more gangers with a BOSS pushing the herd to blanch your HP and run you down to *0* Simpaks.
FNV is a WHOLE different animal. I am not as confident as I was in F3- and some of the armour I've met? My next dude is gonna be a minelayer - and sort them Tanks!

All I can say is, Fallout 3 was bigger, and had way more content.

This game feels tiny and rushed. Despite bugs that I've completely avoided with user-fixes I can say without a doubt based on the core gameplay its better than fallout 3 in regards to statistics and skills and such and crafting. I mean the core game play is better. But in regards to the world you are playing in, its horrible compared to how rich fallout 3 was.

So do I like it? I think my expectations were so high from fallout 3 that I didn't expect what we got from fallout new vegas at all. Like it? Yes it wasn't bad. But rather boring and mediocre.

All in all, I liked fallout 3 way better than this game. This game is like a big DLC that should have been added into fallout 3.

I actually like this game far more then FO3 and I think that is due to the fact it seems less barren? I love to explore and did not make it to vegas proper until much later in the game, the side quests are very well done imho as are the companion quests I have done so far.

Also as was mentioned things that did not matter so much in FO3 really have a impact here (Speech, Barter etc) and also love the fact side quests themselves are not always black and while. It feels more more like the original fallout games but with much better graphics!

Think I am at 80 hours or so playtime and just hit level 26...still lots of quests in my journal so time to get back to work!

ok now lets be honest here this game is screwed im a game tester and the amout of bugs i have found in this game is not only shocking but i personaly take it as a insult to any gamer that fallout new vegas was released when it was. the game play itself is good, weapons, good npc's good, but what i dont like is me going into a building jumping on a table and getting stuck, random crashes for no reason npc's in friendly towns have turned on me for no reason the list goes on. until this game is updated and these problems fixed then the only score this game is gona get from me is a 2 out of ten and that 2 is at a big push. bethesda I GOT SOME CHOICE WORDS FOR YOU IN REGUARDS TO THIS GAME but i cant say em cos there might be kids about