well thats one way of dealing with a restrictive storyline :laugh:

No, it would be like if McDonalds forced you to purchase fries with a burger but you didn't like fries and you bought it anyway because you like burgers. And what do you mean "Many of the features in the current TES games"? It's ONE feature in ONE TES game.

Are we still talking about the fact that the central plot point was revealed? I think this debate is weird. To those of you who argue that they don't want to be the dragon born... well that's fine but it's the plot of this game so... I don't get that.

It's like watching a movie and wishing it were about something else. I mean, right? Bethesda wrote their story and that's the way it's written.

As to whether we should have been told, well, I dunno. I still don't think this is the sort of thing that you could keep concealed. What else could Beth do about it?

Not really because Bethesda isn't forcing anyone to purchase their game.

You obviously didn't read their comments at all. They're not talking about Morrowind or Oblivion. They were talking about having to be the Dovakhiin, which is ONE feature in ONE game. You don't have to buy McDonalds either, but you might still do it if they had things you like, even if you were forced to have those with features you don't like, like forcing you to buy fries with a burger.

i was thinking this 100x over lol



dont worry your comparison was spot on

Now that you mention it yeah, I kind of am. Games are just better when you think you're no one and find out you're someone special and can actually do something important because of it.

KotOR had you think you were a nobody but turned out to be Darth Revan himself and that rocked.
Morrowind had you think you were no one but turned out to be the Nerevar (doubt I spelled that right) and that was cool.

Then Oblivion had you think you were a no one and guess what? You actually were a no one, and that svcked.
Then Skyrim has you know you're a someone from the very beginning and that also svcks. If the character doesn't know until later but you know it'll really svck. It'd be like telling you before KotOR was released that you're Darth Revan then pretending to surprise you when it actually reveals this in game. But I have confidence in Bethesda. They're not fools, if they're telling us now I bet it's something your character already knows or knows soon after the game starts. It's not as cool as thinking you're no one then finding out you're someone, but it's a lot better than actually being a no one like Oblivion or knowing what your character doesn't for far too long.

Guys, I don't want to serve Malacath in Morrowind because that's against my RPing. But I want the Helm of Oreyn Bearclaw. This is bullcrap.

I don't think you was actually a "no one" in Oblivion. The emperor saw you in a dream, and his dreams grant him some visions of the future; he trusted your character more than any of his Blades. Without your character, Martin most likely would be dead in Kvatch. I think the hero in Oblivion was just a different kind of "special person" who's role was to help fulfill the destiny foretold by the Elder Scrolls.

You arent going to start off the game knowing youre the dragonborn, you only know because you watched the trailer and have been looking on the forums for info about the game. Todd has stated you will start off as a random prisoner awaiting your execution....thats how morrowind and oblivion started...you think youre a no one... they arent gonna start the game with "OKAY Mr DRAGONBORN WE WILL STOP YOUR EXECUTION CAUSE WE DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE THE ONE." You obviously will have to find out who you are along the way.

If you dont want to know about the game stop watching videos about it and stop looking up info...pretty simple fix.

There's a long list of things I absolutely love about TES games, which is why three of them are among my all-time favourite games. It just so happens that some of the things I dislike happen to be fairly major features. In Skyrim, I dislike the whole Dovahkiin concept as well as the dragonshouts. In Oblivion, I disliked the gates of Oblivion.

I'll moan constantly about the Dovahkiin thing, but the reality is, I'll still love the game, purely for it's openness. I'll avoid the shouts just as I avoided the gates in Oblivion, and still get hundreds of hours out of enjoyment out of the game.

A forum is for debate and opinions, i gave my point of view, a few people didn't like it and decided to insult me for it, only one person explained why my opinion on wanting a blank-slate character was wrong in their eyes and i accepted that, i insulted no one but defended myself if i felt i was being unfairly treated, thats a fact.

Forums are for civilized debate, where differing opinions can be heard, there has been very little of that in this thread, there is nothing troll-like about having a minority opinion that insults no one, though i do believe that calling someone a troll supporter because they agree with the general gist of ONE post that someone else made is also considered trolling on most forums, yes his/her post was heavily critical of one feature in the game, but there's the difference, he/she attacked a game concept while some others here attacked the posters themselves for daring to have the opinion that a scripted story can sometimes restrict the player's freedom.

If we were to call trolls anyone who differed from us in opinion, then forums may as well be shut down, there would be nothing to talk about.



This is a misrepresentation, i never said i hated anything, words were put in my mouth, i said i disliked one feature not many, and i already answered this, but you obviously have decided to intentionally ignore it and also misrepresent me.



Thats your opinion, i have already explained why i feel the anology was a poor one, that the general sentiment towards me of the person who made that anology fits your own doesn't make it a good anology.

Ok, so now i re-read my post, it seems civilized enough to me, just like every other post i made, it insults no-one.

So i'l just repeat this last point which i should really add as a signature,

IT'S JUST AN OPINION ON A GAME, I'M NOT SAYING I AM RIGHT, I'M READY TO ADMIT I COULD BE WRONG AND HAVE ALREADY DONE SO PREVIOUSLY IN THIS VERY THREAD! I ACCEPT THAT A SCRIPTED STORY IS A VITAL PART TO A GAME LIKE THE ELDER SCROOOOOOOLLS, *pant* *gasp*

If anyone can be bothered to re-read any of my posts they will find i have always been civilized even in the face of sarcasm and thinly veiled insults, there is not much more i can do than that to avoid confrontation, except maybe throw away my own opinons on gaming in case someone else takes exaggerated offense to them, but that of course would be pointless, not to mention spineless.

Sorry to sound so dramatic, for anyone new wandering into this thread and being somewhat bemused by all the capslocks

As a note, I deleted a couple of posts - accusing or calling other members trolls is a warnable offense for flaming on these forums, check the forum rules, and the moderators will do it and give posting suspensions.

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