Alduin, bane of kings? : V

» Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:05 pm

I just checked the UESP wiki, and entered a random article. The article that opened up, was Akatosh, one of the nine devines. On the page, it said that Akatosh was called Alduin among Nords, and I couldnt help noticing that Alduin is the same as described on the game informer cover. So, that means that the main villain of Skyrim will be the head of the Aedra? Or am I mistaken?

» Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:55 pm

Yeah you shouldn't have made a new thread, let alone two, for this.

Check http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1161098-dragons-a-thread-to-discuss-all-things-about-skyrims-dragons/ for more on Akatosh, The Dragon God of Time (known by many names: Akatosh, Alduin, Auri-El, Alkosh, etc see http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Pantheons_of_Tamriel).

Dragon's Past History and Lore in The Elder Scrolls

As decoded from http://elderscrolls.com/assets/swf/Wall.swf. Alduin's Wall is a ancient structure that sits in the Sky Haven Temple, a last refuge for the dwindling forces of the Blades._{(More on this below)}. The wall is named after the devastating dragon depicted upon it's carved surface. Across the wall is inscribed a history and a prophecy that speaks to one of the greatest legends of Tamriel - The story of Alduin.

More on Alduin

Alduin's sobriquet, 'The World Eater', comes from myths that depict him as the horrible, rauaging firestorm that destroyed the last world to begin this one. Akatosh was the first of the et'Ada to form an identity, bringing with him the concept of Time.

The Nord's know Alduin as a terrible, ravenous dragon who presides over the cycle of existence and devours the universe at intervals. Alduin's coming is feared by all pious Nords, and he is the object of (through Nordic eyes) perverse worship by the Altmer, who venerated Auri-El. Auri-El is just the Elven name for Akatosh like Alduin is the Nordic name for Akatosh.

Nords therefore see the god of time as both creator and harbinger of the apocalypse.

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As Skyrim begins, a lone prisoner begins to learn that he may be the one Dragonborn destined to save mankind.

The prophecy depicted on Alduin’s Wall is dire, but it is not without hope. A single individual, gifted with the same incredible powers held by the dragons themselves, may rise to fight against Alduin and assure the world’s survival. The Blades shown http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3593710/Skyrim-Wallpaper2.png bow before the Dragonborn. They’ve protected the line of the Dragonborn for generations in anticipation of this moment, when a Dragonborn would rise to face Alduin upon his return.

» Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:06 pm

I just checked the UESP wiki, and entered a random article. The article that opened up, was Akatosh, one of the nine devines. On the page, it said that Akatosh was called Alduin among Nords, and I couldnt help noticing that Alduin is the same as described on the game informer cover. So, that means that the main villain of Skyrim will be the head of the Aedra? Or am I mistaken?

Well most people believe it to be that but I disagree due to discrepancies in the lore. Technically a book in-game says they are equivalent but the problem is that there are some things the Aedra can't do and Alduin would be breaking a few of those things. Not to mention, Alduin is radically different described than Akatosh so I expect it not to be him but since it's only a theory on both sides whether or not Alduin is Akatosh, we will have to wait to play the Skyrim main quest.

As for more information pertaining to the game, go http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1158506-skyrim-information-compilation. Also, for information about dragons, click on Ciphers sig :biggrin:

» Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:54 am

we will have to wait to play the Skyrim main quest.

There is no guarantee you will receive a definitive answer to the question of Aduin's relation to Akatosh.

» Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:51 am

There is no guarantee you will receive a definitive answer to the question of Aduin's relation to Akatosh.

True. But chances are if it is Akatosh it will be mentioned though. Seeing as how killing/banishing a god would be a pretty big deal hehe.

» Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:12 am

I don't think Alduin is actually Akatosh, maybe the Nords misinterpreted it, or maybe it is something deeper. We'll see.

» Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:30 pm

Something is wrong somewhere.

1. Akatosh "created" the "Dragonborn" to protect the world. Essentially given them the power to bock Daedra(for the most part) form the world.
2. If Akatosh is Alduin, then Akatatosh created something to protect the world until he could destroy it?
3. If Alduin IS Akatosh, and the Elder Scrolls told of Akataosh coming to destroy the world, then Akatosh creaded that which will defeat him.

» Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:39 am

I thought it was said somewhere that Akatosh and Alduin are one and the same and Akatosh entered into some kind of Covenant to protect the barrier between Mundus (The plane Nirn is on) and the Planes of Oblivion. Doing this he was trapped in Mundus. With the events that have been in the Elder Scrolls so far they foretold the freedom of Akatosh/Alduin, at the cost of the destruction of humanity. With the destruction of the Amulet of Kings and the defeat of Dagon those events can now occur which is where we come in.

» Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:12 am

Something is wrong somewhere.

1. Akatosh "created" the "Dragonborn" to protect the world. Essentially given them the power to bock Daedra(for the most part) form the world.
2. If Akatosh is Alduin, then Akatatosh created something to protect the world until he could destroy it?
3. If Alduin IS Akatosh, and the Elder Scrolls told of Akataosh coming to destroy the world, then Akatosh creaded that which will defeat him.

1. It wasn't Akatosh who willingly did the Amulet of Kings.

The legend says that in 1E266, Shezarr (also known as Lorkhan), the missing sibling god of the Eight Divines, transformed the dying Empress Alessia into the first of the Cyrodiilic saints, and bound her soul into the Amulet of Kings, after which the amulet became a heirloom of the Cyrodiilic Empire.

The Amulet of Kings, formed when Akatosh infused Alessia with his own divine blood, then had Shezarr place her soul into the newly formed Amulet of Kings. Alessia's soul was bound to the Amulet, as Akatosh vowed: as long as an heir of his and Alessia's joined blood sat on the throne of Cyrodiil, and wore the Amulet of Kings, the seal will remain in place and Tamriel would be safe from the Daedra of Oblivion. As a sign of this vow, Akatosh lit the Dragonfires in the center of White Gold Tower.

This presented a means to bind all dragons to the service of the empire, and to use their power to maintain the Dragonfires; the price was placing Akatosh at the head of the human pantheon and strengthening him through collective belief.

The destruction of the Amulet of Kings effectively terminated this pact on both ends.

» Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:43 am

We had a good discussion on this topic http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1159301-dragons/page__view__findpost__p__17031071. Go ahead and read through it, It's only one page, but I don't wanna re post it all.