Looking at the skies of Oblivion, it hurts a little them being http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/18305-3-1266158155.jpg everywhere.

Dynamic skyboxes (at least that's what I think they are called, correct me if I'm wrong), are different though. They make the sky seem bigger and more varied. They aren't that hard to do either; a mod did it for Fallout NV.

Here's a few examples of what I think are some awesome skies:
1: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2008/08/ClearSky_DX9_00.png
2: http://www.gameplaymonthly.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/stalker_clear_sky_20080131_1.jpg
3: http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/07/70/77069_Rage-Wallpaper-03.jpg

Here's a few examples of what Skyrim skies look like, which isn't that good I think... if I have to be 100% honest (I think it looks pretty much like Oblivion's skies :confused:)
1: http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/02/The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim-Dragon.jpg
2: http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/114/1149185/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-20110211094554924.jpg

So... would you want "dynamic skies" (or at least the skies to look better than in the Skyrim pics)?
Persoanolly, I'd love it. It's adds even more beauty to the skies I think

Thought a bump could be needed.

Add the "I don't care" option and I'll vote for that.

I almost never look at the sky. As long as it's not so terrible that it distracts from gameplay, and as long as I see Masser and Secunda at night, I don't care. It's just a petty detail.

I have seen far worse skies then what I have seen in the Skyrim screens. I do think that the skys in Rage look almost too good, they make everything els look worse then it is because they seam so good. At least in that picture

There you go


For their time, the skies in Bethesda's games have always been really good. Especially Morrowind's.
Would be sad to depart from that tradition I think

It's a little hard to tell if dynamic skies are in or not, but I do think that they can look a whole lot better than those on the screens. Guess it's a personal preference though.

First thats console version
Second wait for mods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44Q36PLh0Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc3zEXYm6FY

Those skies you show in the top are great! I hope skyrim look like those.

I want it

For me it would depend very much on how it would effect performance...


For real - those first 3 sky links you posted , are so good , that they could be mistaken for Photo's.

1. Having good skies is something a console can handle. It's just a few textures, so not a memory issue. And no performance hit here either.
A http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35998 managed to do it with, from what it seems, zero peformance hit. It's basically just a different type of skydome if I understand correctly.

2. Why shouldn't the actual creators of the game make sure we have great-looking skies from the start? Mods is not really the question here. We're talking about the game itself. The real game. The "wait for mods" excuse can be said about practically everything for every single game.

Also, not really sure why you showed those videos. They have nothing to do with dynamic skies.
And the cloud shadows were never released, probably never will be. In the SSAO-video, the sky is incredibly over-bloomed as well and you can't even see the clouds.

I don't care too much about the textures used for the sky. They are important for the atmosphere of a certain weather type, but they don't necessarily have to be awe-inspiring.

I have high hopes for the other parts of the weather anyway. Dynamic snow sounds great and the clouds around the mountains in the screenshot you posted look pretty great too. I don't believe we'll see completely realistic 3D clouds, though, I guess it's more like ground fog. But that would be asking too much.

I was playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood earlier and that has skies like the ones you want. And I hated it! It looked so bad. Honestly. I hope they keep the style that we've seen in the screenshots.

Won't really care, I'll probably be too busy Decapitating dragons and pillaging villages to look up. :shrug:

are us two the only ones to think that skyrim should be graphically well ahead of its time? skyrim should have the best of everything so that the game looks awesome even after a few years.

we already know clouds build up on mountins dynamicaly like you would expect... duno nif they have come up with a dynamic cloud generator I do hope at least they randomly gen cloud patterns from time to time specialy from season to season and from weather type to weather type.

I can't really see how the Skyrim sky is any worse than others you linked to. :shrug:
Meaning its as good as it needs to be for me. The only thing that bothered me about Oblivions sky was when you saw an oblivion gate in the distance the sky would be red and stormy for the next ten minutes.

Off topic: that RAGE screen :drool:

That is one thing that bothered me really much too.
Would be awesome if you like... saw a thunderstorm coming near you in the horizon!


You're mixing things up a bit. That about the mountains is more like fog / lower clouds. And they aren't dynamic. They're volumetric.
I'm talking about the "skies" themselves. They're always there, whether lower clouds are in or not. Though if the above clouds are volumetric as well (which it certainly doesn't look like in those pictures to me), then the skies are just a blank blue texture, pretty much. But that's not really the case here, I think.


All Bethesda's previous games have had aweeesome graphics (except for Fallout 3 and Fallout NV, they were... a lot behind). Would be sad to depart from that tradition.
Graphics, and in this case awesome skies (which doesn't seem to be the hardest thing to do; since a mod did it for F: NV), adds quite a bit to the atmosphere and enjoyment of the game.

I'm not saying gameplay or anything is unimportant though, before anyone starts to flame me. I'm saying the attention should be put to both equally. But in this case, it feels as if graphics (in this case skies) are a bit behind as well.
I think a little more attention to this wouldn't hurt... :confused: