Spears >>>>>> AI <<<&#60

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:37 am

Before I start this isn't a topic about "why aren't spears in Skyrim" ok, so don't comment saying Omg another one!!!

Right, first off, spears are unaccessable for the player himself to use in Skyrim for reasons I've heard to many times so I'm not going to repeat it!!
But I was thinking, I only want them in the game because I like the look of them, I mean, I probably wouldn't use them anyway even if they was in, they'll seem to fixed. So why not have guards walking round with them, it would make the city look more protected because I feel the spear as a more powerful and protective weapon.

Like this http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://www.kingandcountry.com/%255CPhotos%255CIC%255CIC012(L).jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.kingandcountry.com/catalog.do%3Fmethod%3DselectCatalog%26catalog%3Dgroup%26group%3DChina%26series%3DIC&usg=__PpQkS9QDecwzpuGADM-EaWx3A8k=&h=773&w=700&sz=111&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=9yI4HIBUwKuOwM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=123&ei=ZSjiTY--DsG5hAf3t6TqBw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dguard%2Bspear%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D677%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=851&vpy=132&dur=89&hovh=236&hovw=214&tx=116&ty=144&page=1&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:0&biw=1280&bih=677, But obviously not with his chicken outfit else Skyrim will look like a fairy world.
I think it's a great idea, they can be tower guards walking around patrolling the areas around the cities with these, and they can either use them, which wouldn't be so hard to animate because you don't have to watch it in first person, or they can just switch to a sword or bow when they engage a enemy, this is purely for aesthetics and I think me and thousands of other fans would enjoy this, it's compensation for not letting us use them ourselves ;)
When you loot a guard the spear can simply, just not be there, it should either be in their hands if their using it when they die or be stuck on their back if they die without using it.
Also when they engage battle with you, they should simply switch to a smaller weapon as you wouldn't use a spear to kill another human anyway.

Please discuss this topic and I don't want to hear no one complaining about spears not been in or saying this topic is a repeat or what not. Thank you :)
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CArla HOlbert
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:27 pm

Pointless in my opinion, just as spears themselves.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:31 pm

It's probably not that the animation is difficult that's the issue, but that they would prefer spending the valuable time on something else. Spears aren't really needed in the TES universe, even though they are frickin' awesome. Would not make sense to have them spend time implenting spears in the world but then not be able to use them. The tease would cause a considerable amount of flame.

Also when they engage battle with you, they should simply switch to a smaller weapon as you wouldn't use a spear to kill another human anyway.

Why? It's been working great for me so far IRL.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:13 am

That would be extremely annoying! To not be able to wear weapons and armour thatt the NPCs are wielding! I vote no, if they are implimented they are to be used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us9ox2pMWzw
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:16 am

I'm not bothered about using them, I think it will just look good if the AI guards are carrying them, let's say just in one city, the biggest.
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Post » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:04 pm

I don't think this is necessary. The spears should either be completely in the game for everybody to use, or not exist at all IMO. And who knows, perhaps this would be annoying rather than compensating for the fact that spears are not available for the player.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:01 pm

That would be extremely annoying! To not be able to wear weapons and armour thatt the NPCs are wielding! I vote no, if they are implimented they are to be used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us9ox2pMWzw

Did I say anything about not been able to wear armor?? :S
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:11 am

Did I say anything about not been able to wear armor?? :S

I think he was saying that because in Oblivion, Dremora had inaccesible armor. If you put AI spears in most people would hate Bethesda with good reason
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Post » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:18 pm

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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:05 am

END OF DISCUSSION

I don't think you get to declare that. On topic I agree with Dreadful, that would be a far worse scenario
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:55 am

I completely agree with the IDEA. All the coolest medieval places have patrolling guards with spears.
Something that from what i've read people seem to have missed: Todd only said we wouldn't have spears in the traditional sense - we all know that. So in my opinion that suggests other polearms such as pikes, poleaxes etc. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090218221647/stronghold/images/d/dc/Pikeman-lg.png is an example of what we might see in the game, without limiting what the player can/can't have.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:14 am

They had 5 years and have 7320 workers as of 2009.

And you say they had NO time and NO spare people? :wacko:
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