Altmers and Daedra?

Post » Sun May 01, 2011 9:08 pm

Are the Altmers keen on worshiping Daedra? What race is in particular?
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 5:38 pm

Traditionally, the Altmer think lowly of the Daedra, because they are Not Their Ancestors. But lately, daedra worship has become more prevalent on Summerset, probably by the younger crowd there out of spite towards their elders.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 9:08 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/summerset.shtml sound suspiciously like a Dagonite (or possibly Boethiah-inspired) cult, given their predilection for brutal murders and their attempts to destroy the Crystal Tower and other relics of the 'old order'.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 6:36 pm

Are the Altmers keen on worshiping Daedra? What race is in particular?

I wouldn't say that Altmer are, as Daedra is translated into "Not our anscestors", but there still would be Daedra worship in the Isles. And in regards to which Races worship Daedra...the Chimer worshipped Daedra exclusively, until they were changed to Dunmer when the Tribunal apothesised, and Azura got kind of...pissed. Also, the Khajiit are big on the worship of Azura. She's the big fgure in their creation (Of race) myth. But I'm not that big on researching Khajiit stuff, so ask someone more knowladgeable.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 10:02 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/summerset.shtml sound suspiciously like a Dagonite (or possibly Boethiah-inspired) cult, given their predilection for brutal murders and their attempts to destroy the Crystal Tower and other relics of the 'old order'.


Oh please no. It would be so much better if they wer just a man-oriented revolutionary group who think that the Altmer need to change. I don't want them to be changed into "we're evil because we like to destroy things and worship the Satanic figure of TES". I like the Beautiful because I still can view them as the first option. Destruction can be wrought by those who want change, not only by those who want the end of the world.

And wouldn't a Daedra-worshipping Altmer be a Chimer. I know a portion of Chimer stayed in Summerset and was not changed by Azura, so wouldn't the Altmer/Chimer difference be a cultural divide based on religion.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 6:25 pm

And wouldn't a Daedra-worshipping Altmer be a Chimer. I know a portion of Chimer stayed in Summerset and was not changed by Azura, so wouldn't the Altmer/Chimer difference be a cultural divide based on religion.

I don't think so. While the Chimer were actually Daedra-worshipping Altmer, I think that the race is actually defined as the Deadra-worshipping Altmer that followed the prophet Veloth to Resdayn. :shrug:
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 7:42 pm

I don't think so. While the Chimer were actually Daedra-worshipping Altmer, I think that the race is actually defined as the Deadra-worshipping Altmer that followed the prophet Veloth to Resdayn. :shrug:

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/nu-hatta_nu-mantia.shtml#8:
Just like the earliest Chimer who orphaned themselves from the Velothi Exodites, but remain Chimer today

Where does one draw the lines between elven cultures and races? We have the Altmer, Ayleids and the Direnni (Clan), and the largest difference between them seems to be that they settled in different regions and developed different cultures. They were all Aldmer once.

And what about the Dwemer? What makes them different from other mer, other than their culture? While one might easily consider Wood Elves a different "race" than the others, they obviously became so because of their different culture. Both Dunmer and Orcs where cursed and changed. What the Falmer were is unknown, so we really can't say if they were a "race" of their own (like Dunmer/Orsimer/Bosmer) or just another "Aldmer" culture, like the Altmer, Ayleid and Direnni.
It seems very likeable to me that Chimer might be another "race" just based on that their culture is different from the "common" Altmer culture.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 12:52 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/nu-hatta_nu-mantia.shtml#8:
Just like the earliest Chimer who orphaned themselves from the Velothi Exodites, but remain Chimer today

OK, perhaps saying that all the Chimer followed Veloth to Resdayn was a bit too much, but them having orphaned themselves from the Velothi Exodites implies that they did have something to do with Veloth at one time. So I would say that perhaps...Chimer were the Deadra-worshipping Aldmer that followed Veloth. So they didn't necessarily have to have followed Veloth to Resdayn, but they did follow him at one point. Or perhaps, they were simply part of the culture that the Chimer had created.

Where does one draw the lines between elven cultures and races? We have the Altmer, Ayleids and the Direnni (Clan), and the largest difference between them seems to be that they settled in different regions and developed different cultures. They were all Aldmer once.

Where does one draw the line? Good question. I'd say that it's at the point where there's such a difference between two peoples that well...they're not the same. Terrible, I know, but I haven't gotten any sleep for the last 20 hours, so I think this'll be tonights last post.

It seems very likeable to me that Chimer might be another "race" just based on that their culture is different from the "common" Altmer culture.

Of course, they were. I'm just saying that being a Deadra-worshipping Altmer does not make you a Chimer. The Chimer were actually a race with their own developed culture, and simply worshipping Daedra as an Altmer does not make you one.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 2:35 am

Of course, they were. I'm just saying that being a Deadra-worshipping Altmer does not make you a Chimer. The Chimer were actually a race with their own developed culture, and simply worshipping Daedra as an Altmer does not make you one.

Then I agree with you (I must have misunderstood something somewhere). There is a large difference between an Altmer summoning, for example, Meridia, and an actual Chimer. As I now realise you said, one has to follow Veloths teachings to be Chimer, but you mustn't actually have followed Veloth.

edit: Damn those grammar rules
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