On the subject of sheogorath

Post » Sun May 01, 2011 7:12 pm

Ok, I believe there will be no more tes series . For several reasons.

1.Oblivion . Namesakes .
2.End of the third era , Septim line . In which the series began , more specifical end of Uriel ...with whom it began .

And I was thinking , here's strike 3 , Its over, Jugalug ( sorry wrong spelling I know ) is free . He was trapped in that cycle of madness as sheogorath for because he was in effect taking over oblivion , with order . Order being in terms , the end f change which is the circle of oblivion and the deadra princes .

There has always been two world in tes really , And in effect they are both settled.

in the very least say good bye ,lore speaking to a large portion of magic .


whats your thoughts ?
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 4:25 am

First of all, Jygyllag won't get rid of magic by being freed into the Oblivion. Magic comes from Aetherius. Also, if the other Princes cursed Jygyllag before, I see no reason they couldn't do it again.

Also, wether there is not a TESV is not an issue of storyline: If Bethesda thinks it will be profitable, they will make TESV.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 12:27 pm

No.... Every now and again, someone will bring up TES V, which means its safe to say that, barring any spontaneous BS, there will be another TES game, maybe even two, but thats just my personal speculation.

Jyggalag's return, for all we know, just means that Jyggalag is back. I'd tell you a bit more, but it seems you're somewhat new to lore, so it probably wouldn't make any sense to you.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 3:03 am

First of all, Jygyllag won't get rid of magic by being freed into the Oblivion. Magic comes from Aetherius. Also, if the other Princes cursed Jygyllag before, I see no reason they couldn't do it again.



maybe , I was thinking summons . And the Pc takes the place of him , to keep the mouse trap occupied . Perhaps they couldnt do it again ;)
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 7:37 pm

Order being in terms , the end f change which is the circle of oblivion and the deadra princes .


Trying to order the void is like trying to piss in a lake enough to make the whole thing a nice yellow tone. It just won't work. Jyg tried before, and failed miserably. Why Jyg would leave the comfort of Aetherius to try to complete an impossible task is beyond me.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 12:33 pm

Trying to order the void is like trying to piss in a lake enough to make the whole thing a nice yellow tone. It just won't work. Jyg tried before, and failed miserably. Why Jyg would leave the comfort of Aetherius to try to complete an impossible task is beyond me.

Because he's ludicrously obsessive-compusive and is driven to by his nature?
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 7:54 pm

Trying to order the void is like trying to piss in a lake enough to make the whole thing a nice yellow tone. It just won't work. Jyg tried before, and failed miserably. Why Jyg would leave the comfort of Aetherius to try to complete an impossible task is beyond me.


Maybe it won't be impossible soon enough....

edit: Who said he failed? Perhaps he was... stopped. And maybe he was stopped in a way that isn't necessarily the one you think...
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 2:03 pm

Who said he failed? Perhaps he was... stopped. And maybe he was stopped in a way that isn't necessarily the one you think...


He was stopped by Mundus. You can order the house of Sithis. Since Mundus still exists, it is impossible for him to Order the void, at least as long as Mundus is still located there.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 1:46 am

Jyggalag is free of the curse because he never destroyed the Shivering Isles, therefore causing himself to turn back into Sheogorath. At the same time, he may not have a realm, but he could always make a new one. And he has a tireless crystal army at his command.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 3:25 am

He was stopped by Mundus. You can order the house of Sithis. Since Mundus still exists, it is impossible for him to Order the void, at least as long as Mundus is still located there.

Could you expand on this, please? I don't fully understand it.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 4:24 pm

Could you expand on this, please? I don't fully understand it.


I'll try to explain it, at least in the way I understand it: during the Dawn Era BEFORE Lorkhan died, Time wasn't linear and everything was exact; JYG's sphere is Order, or more specifically, Exactness.

When LKHAN is destroyed, a "Sithis-shaped hole" is left, the Serpent constellation, correct? SHEOG is described as a Sithis-shaped hole. When the Exactness of Mundus is destroyed, Jyggalag himself is "destroyed" in the process, flipping him into Sheogorath, or Madness, or perhaps more specifically, Randomness.

The Exactness of Mundus leaves when Lorkhan is killed, which in turn creates the Red Tower, which in turn stabilizes mortal existence, turning Time into a linear thing, thus allowing the Arena of "Eternal Unpredictability" to exist.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 3:07 pm

When LKHAN is destroyed, a "Sithis-shaped hole" is left, the Serpent constellation, correct? SHEOG is described as a Sithis-shaped hole. When the Exactness of Mundus is destroyed, Jyggalag himself is "destroyed" in the process, flipping him into Sheogorath, or Madness, or perhaps more specifically, Randomness.


This is a point of debate. There are numerous theories, all being based on if you believe Malacath is or isn't Triniamc, but rather his "other"

When Mundus was created, so were mortals, thus, sow as free will. The entire Arubis was then polluted with free will, which was new. Before that, all the gods were locked into actions based on their spheres. They were all predictable to a mark, and Jyg used this extreme weakness all the gods had to gain power (as we was the master of predictability). Thus, in a way, Jyg reflected the very Arubis itself. This is where things branch.

Some believe that Jyg's "other", Sheogorath, had always existed but was weak beacuse the Arubis favored Jyg (as it was still very predictable). However, after Shezarr created free will, the Arubis was polluted with it, thus letting out Sehoograth and repressing Jyg. It is through this theory that Jyg's return implies an end to free will and thus the looming destruction of Mundus.

The other theory simply states that as Jyg watched the Mundus come into creation he saw free will enter the equation. Knowing that he could no longer keep things in predictable order, he went insane and his sphere collapsed into he sphere of madness.

Some other believe that once Shezarr "died" his sphere, freedom, had to find a new avatar and latched itself onto Jyg, who then became Sheogorath to take over his new sphere.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 8:58 pm

Oblivion ended what I felt to be quite anticlimactically. So either TESV with tie up all the loose ends and finish the series, or it will start a entire new set of events.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 11:01 pm

I like 94600's theory, maybe because I can better understand it.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 6:38 pm

Oblivion ended what I felt to be quite anticlimactically. So either TESV with tie up all the loose ends and finish the series, or it will start a entire new set of events.


I'd LOVE for the latter idea to be true, but the way things are going, a climix of some sort is coming soon.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 1:35 pm

No, actually this just means that TESV will be the last single player game sadly. It'll probably be quite grand but... something to think about:

A. The player's statue is in Bruma. I'll be citing this and probably be shouting about how I'm not there. Nice egg though.
B. You can go to your own Daedric Shrine and get your own artifact from yourself. Amazing, truly.
C. You have ten houses, but that's just long for Mud.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 9:55 pm

Ok, im just gona quote this and leave it at that.... "And when the next elderscroll is written, you shall be its scribe" -Martin Septim


K get pwnd
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