Hi all.

I'm making a chargen script and it's refusing to work. I have all the menus and correct 'state' coding in there, and when the script starts the name window pops up like it's meant to. Just like the name menu in actual Morrowind. You can't move around (which is good). HOWEVER, you can still look around, resulting in their being a crosshair, no cursor. Which means you're unable to input your name, so the script never resolves.

Does anyone know what I've done wrong?

you'll probably need to post your script so people can see what you done.

Are you using the EnableNameMenu command? Also, posting your script will help in debugging it.

Sure, sorry. I'm new here and didn't want to clutter it up. Script is:

begin CharGen

short state


DisablePlayerControls
DisablePlayerJumping
DisablePlayerViewSwitch
DisableVanityMode
DisablePlayerFighting
DisablePlayerMagic



Player->PositionCell 4100, 4100, -27, 24, "Castle-town"

Set CharGenState to 1

if ( State == 1 )
EnableNameMenu
set State to 12
endif

if ( State == 12 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableRaceMenu
set State to 14
endif

endif

if ( State == 14 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableClassMenu
set State to 16
endif

endif

if ( State == 16 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableBirthMenu
set State to 18
endif

endif

if ( State == 18 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableStatReviewMenu
set State to 20
endif

endif

set CharGenState to -1

stopscript CharGen

end CharGen

You're hammering the menus, which causes them all to pop at once and lose focus. Add this to your script, just before the if ( state == 1 ) line:

If ( MenuMode )    ReturnEndif

Do you mean directly put it in as ( MenuMode ) or do I replace it with the name of the next Menu in line? Cos my menu's haven't ever popped up all at once since I put in the State checks

Do just as it's said: put MenuMode bugout block just before Player->PositionCell

You don't see all the menus, because they conflict with each other, loosing focus - that's why You are unable to do anything at all...

Better yet, check if ( MenuMode == 1 ) - that's better and less buggy practice.

That did nothing, except that now even the Name menu doesn't appear. Also, since i've been working on the world lately, I've now noticed that the pc starts at Wilderness 0,0, ignoring the line in my scrip which places him elsewhere. here's the slightly revamped script


begin CharGen

short state


DisablePlayerControls
DisablePlayerJumping
DisablePlayerViewSwitch
DisableVanityMode
DisablePlayerFighting
DisablePlayerMagic



Player->PositionCell 4100, 4100, -28, 24, "Castle-town"

If ( MenuMode == 1 )
Return
Endif

Set CharGenState to 1




if ( State == 1 )
EnableNameMenu
set State to 2
endif

if ( State == 2 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableRaceMenu
set State to 4
endif

endif

if ( State == 4 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableClassMenu
set State to 6
endif

endif

if ( State == 6 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableBirthMenu
set State to 8
endif

endif

if ( State == 8 )
if (SayDone == 1)
EnableStatReviewMenu
endif

endif

set CharGenState to -1

stopscript CharGen

end CharGen

What's with the SayDone?? Is there another script for voices or what? How does it tie in with this?

Also - just checking menumode isn't enough, you need a delay to make sure menumode registers properly, at least for some of the menus.

Oh blast, I'd forgotten to take SayDone out when I deleted the sound files I'd made. I'll delete them now lol

And how do i ensure there's a delay?

Well here's my quick char gen for mod testing:

begin CharGen;chargenstate 1 start -1 finishedfloat timerif ( CharGenState == 1 )	DisablePlayerControls	DisablePlayerJumping	DisablePlayerViewSwitch	DisableVanityMode	DisablePlayerFighting	DisablePlayerMagic	Player->PositionCell -10608, -71301, 189, 0 "Seyda Neen (-2, -9)"	ChangeWeather "Bitter Coast Region" 1 ;sets beginning weather to cloudy, looks nicer	set CharGenState to 10	returnendifif ( MenuMode == 1 )	returnendifif ( CharGenState == 10 )	EnableNameMenu	set CharGenState to 20	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 50 )	EnablePlayerControls	enablestatsmenu	enableinventorymenu	enablemagicmenu	enablemapmenu	enableplayerfighting	enableplayermagic	EnablePlayerJumping	set CharGenState to 60	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 60 )	enablestatsmenu	enableinventorymenu	enablemagicmenu	enablemapmenu	enableplayerfighting	enableplayermagic	AddTopic "background"	AddTopic "Balmora"	AddTopic "Caius Cosades"	AddTopic "duties"	AddTopic "my trade"	AddTopic "the Empire"	AddTopic "Uriel Septim"	ShowMap "Balmora"	ShowMap "Pelagiad"	ShowMap "Moonmoth Legion Fort"	journal "A1_1_FindSpymaster" 1	player->AddItem "bk_a1_1_caiuspackage" 1	player->AddItem "bk_a1_1_directionscaiuscosades" 1	"chargen door hall"->unlock	set CharGenState to -1	stopscript CharGen	returnendifif ( timer < 1 )	set timer to ( timer + GetSecondsPassed )	returnendifset timer to 0if ( CharGenState == 20 )	Enableracemenu	set CharGenState to 25	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 25 )	EnableClassMenu	"CharGen Boat"->Disable	"CharGen Boat Guard 1"->disable	"CharGen Boat Guard 2"->disable	"CharGen Dock Guard"->disable	"CharGen_cabindoor"->disable	"CharGen_chest_02_empty"->disable	"CharGen_crate_01"->disable	"CharGen_crate_01_empty"->disable	"CharGen_crate_01_misc01"->disable	"CharGen_crate_02"->disable	"CharGen_lantern_03_sway"->disable	"CharGen_ship_trapdoor"->disable	"CharGen_barrel_01"->disable	"CharGen_barrel_02"->disable	"CharGenbarrel_01_drinks"->disable	"CharGen_plank"->disable	set CharGenState to 30	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 30 )	EnableBirthMenu	set CharGenState to 40	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 40 )	EnableStatReviewMenu	set CharGenState to 45	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 45 )	StartScript RaceCheck	EnableStatsMenu	EnablePlayerViewSwitch	EnableVanityMode	EnableMagicMenu	EnableRest	set CharGenState to 50	returnendifend

This could definitely be tweaked with the timing - just for appearances, it works as it is. I just didn't care how it looked when I wrote it, since it's only for testing stuff.

See, most of that didn't quite make sense to me. i understood pretty much all the commands, but not really the meaning. I'm new to scripting for MW, see.

Same script with comments - hopefully that will make it clearer - and also changed the state var values so it's clearer (look at what happens in the order that it happens - the blocks are executed in order 1,2,3,4 etc, even though they're not in that order in the script).

begin CharGen;chargenstate 1 start -1 finishedfloat timerif ( CharGenState == 1 )  ;CharGenState is set by the engine when you start a new game	DisablePlayerControls  ;disable everything until chargen is done	DisablePlayerJumping  ;not sure if all this is necessary but you at least	DisablePlayerViewSwitch  ;   need to stop the player looking at themselves	DisableVanityMode  ;    (inventory, vanity mode, fighting, spellcasting)	DisablePlayerFighting  ;    - since they'll have default appearance	DisablePlayerMagic	Player->PositionCell -10608, -71301, 189, 0 "Seyda Neen (-2, -9)" ;puts player in the world	ChangeWeather "Bitter Coast Region" 1 ;sets beginning weather to cloudy, looks nicer	set CharGenState to 2	return  ;wait until next frame to do next bitendifif ( MenuMode == 1 )  ;nothing from here on gets done in menumode	returnendifif ( CharGenState == 2 )	EnableNameMenu  ;one menu at a time	set CharGenState to 3	return  ;wait until next frame, this makes it go through the menumode check	;state 3 is after the timer (lower down!)elseif ( CharGenState == 8 )	EnablePlayerControls	enablestatsmenu	enableinventorymenu	enablemagicmenu	enablemapmenu	enableplayerfighting	enableplayermagic	EnablePlayerJumping	set CharGenState to 9	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 9 )	enablestatsmenu  ;a number of enable commands are repeated a few times - Bethesda did this	enableinventorymenu  ;just to make sure, I figured it was a good idea to imitate them	enablemagicmenu	enablemapmenu	enableplayerfighting	enableplayermagic	AddTopic "background"  ;this part just adds things you'd get if you went through	AddTopic "Balmora"  ;   chargen the normal (slow) way	AddTopic "Caius Cosades"	AddTopic "duties"	AddTopic "my trade"	AddTopic "the Empire"	AddTopic "Uriel Septim"	ShowMap "Balmora"	ShowMap "Pelagiad"	ShowMap "Moonmoth Legion Fort"	journal "A1_1_FindSpymaster" 1	player->AddItem "bk_a1_1_caiuspackage" 1	player->AddItem "bk_a1_1_directionscaiuscosades" 1	"chargen door hall"->unlock	set CharGenState to -1  ;chargen is finished	stopscript CharGen	returnendifif ( timer < 1 )  ;wait 1 second in addition to menumode check	set timer to ( timer + GetSecondsPassed )	returnendifset timer to 0  ;reset timer for next timeif ( CharGenState == 3 )	Enableracemenu	set CharGenState to 4	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 4 )	EnableClassMenu	"CharGen Boat"->Disable  ;this part just gets rid of the prison ship etc	"CharGen Boat Guard 1"->disable	"CharGen Boat Guard 2"->disable	"CharGen Dock Guard"->disable	"CharGen_cabindoor"->disable	"CharGen_chest_02_empty"->disable	"CharGen_crate_01"->disable	"CharGen_crate_01_empty"->disable	"CharGen_crate_01_misc01"->disable	"CharGen_crate_02"->disable	"CharGen_lantern_03_sway"->disable	"CharGen_ship_trapdoor"->disable	"CharGen_barrel_01"->disable	"CharGen_barrel_02"->disable	"CharGenbarrel_01_drinks"->disable	"CharGen_plank"->disable	set CharGenState to 5	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 5 )	EnableBirthMenu  ;note that since all of these are below the timer, they all wait 1 second	set CharGenState to 6	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 6 )	EnableStatReviewMenu	set CharGenState to 7	returnelseif ( CharGenState == 7 )	StartScript RaceCheck  ;RaceCheck script sets global used in dialgoue to check PC race	EnableStatsMenu  ;need to re-enable everything that was disabled at start	EnablePlayerViewSwitch	EnableVanityMode	EnableMagicMenu	EnableRest	set CharGenState to 8	returnendifend

Ah! So, essentially, if I place the Menumode check at the top and put a return function into each block, and get the timer working just after it, my problems should be solved?

I also can't figure out why my placement isn't working

Yep, that sounds right.

Placement - you mean putting the player in the world? A couple of things, most important is the format is inconsistently fussy - sometimes this will work:

Player->PositionCell -10608 -71301 189 0 "Seyda Neen (-2, -9)"

but sometimes it needs this instead:

Player->PositionCell -10608 -71301 189 0 "Seyda Neen"

If it just silently fails, it's usually the format.

Other thing is that some people have reported that you need to add the starting cell to the ini preload cells. Other people have been fine without doing this, but it's possible for it to be system-dependent, so I guess it's worth a try.

Excellent, I'll give it a try. And by the ini preload cells, do you mean in the .ini file in the MW folder?

Yep, it's in Morrowind.ini. The default is this:

[PreLoad]Cell 0=Imperial Prison ShipCell 1=Seyda Neen

I assume you can add a Cell 2 and put your starting cell there.

Ah thank you, you're brilliant lol. i'll try it tomorrow (it's midnight lol) and let you know how it works. thanks again

Excellent! all worked,, thatnks a millio. even got the positioning to work. You are a hero lol

If you're planning on releasing this, instead of asking the end user to modify their Morrowind.ini file- start the player off in Seyda Neen or the Imperial Prison Ship, then teleport them out of there to your desired destination immediately. Just a quick fix that makes your mod plug-and-play.

Thanks, but I didn't need to fix the ini file, thank god lol