I don't know about you, but I've noticed a huge inconsistency in the multiplayer as far as shootouts go. It feels as if its random on who would win a gun fight if you lined two people up and had them pull the trigger simultaneously. Unfortunately since kill cams are unreliable, I can't really tell as well as I'd like.

Also just some bugs I've noticed. Kicked cars can still kill you even when they aren't moving because the game does not recognize it properly. The ground pound perk can kill you while they are in recovery from the landing as I found out by trying to melee kill someone in recovery phase. Also there are times when I try to fire my gun and it won't shoot. I don't know if a certain sequence of buttons cause this but its irritating.

sounds like lag is gettin u. they have the same problem with backstabs in demons souls. lag makes it look like you get svcked into the backstab. peer to peer network. but because sonys internet is free, and they arent being funded to run dedicated servers for the sony platform, we just have to deal with it. or go xbox. looks like bill gates gets to flex his wallet in this battle too lol i wish sony had more balls.. really.. they let so many developers push them around with exclusive titles and superior gaming rights. its pathetic. and we pay more for our systems!

The problem with lag for this style of game is it has extreme effect on this game because of damage it takes to kill someone. On the topic of network, if I'm not mistaken Sony bought the rights to MLG. You would think they would improve their network since they forced the players to change consoles. Correct me if I'm wrong about the MLG thing, but I could've sworn I've heard that somewhere.

not sure what MLG means lol

I agree the shootouts are all over the place.. Aiming is definitely inconsistent. Of course i'm a noob but still.. I'm aiming right at the guy and nothing..

I agree the shootouts are all over the place.. Aiming is definitely inconsistent. Of course i'm a noob but still.. I'm aiming right at the guy and nothing..


trigger discipline man. and the mind of a true killer lol gotta be able to forget that the dudes right in front of you blasting your face off and concentrate on being precise and making shots count. i cant even do this effectively lol but good luck. you will get the hang of it with time. what lvl are u?

I agree the shootouts are all over the place.. Aiming is definitely inconsistent. Of course i'm a noob but still.. I'm aiming right at the guy and nothing..


trigger discipline man. and the mind of a true killer lol gotta be able to forget that the dudes right in front of you blasting your face off and concentrate on being precise and making shots count. i cant even do this effectively lol but good luck. you will get the hang of it with time. what lvl are u?


Dog tag says 16 right now... I swear some guys have some guns that i haven't unlocked yet.. Definitely got the disadvantage right now. My aiming is all over the place lol... Besides some guys are picking me off with one shot. Seems like the Ps3 controller is lagging or the game.. I'm going Melee attacks and nothing happens.. They should be dead lol...

Any advice?

screen name anthonymichael34...

Thanks man..

Played some more today, realized the lag is horrible. As far as the shoot out thing goes, yea its lag. I was having crap games all day, Then finally it gave me host, I owned everyone like it wasn't even funny barely breaking even all day long, get host and go 35 and 2. I really think their is something wrong with their match making system too. For some reason every lobby or game your in, The host is always full everyone else is 1 or 2 bar connection while maybe 2 other people get 3 bar connections. So obviously it cant be matching people up correctly for this to be in every single lobby.

A really irritating thing to me is the fact you can’t hear enemy gunfire, what’s up with that? Your getting shot for a minute but no sound to relate where its coming from. (yea I know look at the map for the red dot), either way sound should be there. I think if they put a little more work into the matchmaking system it would do a great deal of good. I can’t believe I don’t have host every time like I always do in P2P. Just the one time and it was awesome owning everyone. Yet I still feel as it is really unfair especially when they are matching the worse people possible with the host, just makes the host advantage stand out like no other.

Other than that I question if the nano suit should have such a huge influence and impact in the multiplayer. I mean I like the function’s of it integrated into the MP, just seems ridiculous if your lagging seconds behind stuff, you never see that stealth person when they get close , lagging. Any who I like the game I really do just question the matchmaking, the huge emphasis on the nano suit capabilities in the MP and that pretty much all right now. Still good game I like it. Just needs a little fine tuning.

I agree the shootouts are all over the place.. Aiming is definitely inconsistent. Of course i'm a noob but still.. I'm aiming right at the guy and nothing..


trigger discipline man. and the mind of a true killer lol gotta be able to forget that the dudes right in front of you blasting your face off and concentrate on being precise and making shots count. i cant even do this effectively lol but good luck. you will get the hang of it with time. what lvl are u?


Dog tag says 16 right now... I swear some guys have some guns that i haven't unlocked yet.. Definitely got the disadvantage right now. My aiming is all over the place lol... Besides some guys are picking me off with one shot. Seems like the Ps3 controller is lagging or the game.. I'm going Melee attacks and nothing happens.. They should be dead lol...

Any advice?

screen name anthonymichael34...

Thanks man..


well, my personal opinion is that the SCAR and FELINE are 2 of the best, if not THE best weapons in the game. both usable early in the game. If you cant get along with those, you wont get along with anything. not because they are easy to use, but because they are well rounded where as some of the other weps are more skill oriented. You need to be able to know the game inside and out, and be comfortable with taking some heavier handicaps in trade for more power/speed/etc... the SCAR will take most anybody out in 1 or 2 hits. look around the game and watch your killers. 7 times out of 10 they are using a scar, at least. its just the poster weapon for the game.

use your power slides often. and get "mobility enhance" as soon as possible. nothing has helped me more than being able to stay stealthy, and speedy for long durations. stay moving. never sit in one spot, and always watch your back if possible. but, fact of life, you will get mobbed. its just facts. dont take deaths too hard. work on your kills. if you can pull 5 or more kills per round you are doing okay. work on that and the deaths will follow.

Played some more today, realized the lag is horrible. As far as the shoot out thing goes, yea its lag. I was having crap games all day, Then finally it gave me host, I owned everyone like it wasn't even funny barely breaking even all day long, get host and go 35 and 2. I really think their is something wrong with their match making system too. For some reason every lobby or game your in, The host is always full everyone else is 1 or 2 bar connection while maybe 2 other people get 3 bar connections. So obviously it cant be matching people up correctly for this to be in every single lobby.

A really irritating thing to me is the fact you can’t hear enemy gunfire, what’s up with that? Your getting shot for a minute but no sound to relate where its coming from. (yea I know look at the map for the red dot), either way sound should be there. I think if they put a little more work into the matchmaking system it would do a great deal of good. I can’t believe I don’t have host every time like I always do in P2P. Just the one time and it was awesome owning everyone. Yet I still feel as it is really unfair especially when they are matching the worse people possible with the host, just makes the host advantage stand out like no other.

Other than that I question if the nano suit should have such a huge influence and impact in the multiplayer. I mean I like the function’s of it integrated into the MP, just seems ridiculous if your lagging seconds behind stuff, you never see that stealth person when they get close , lagging. Any who I like the game I really do just question the matchmaking, the huge emphasis on the nano suit capabilities in the MP and that pretty much all right now. Still good game I like it. Just needs a little fine tuning.

the gunfire sounds is a big one. as for looking at the map, i consider maps to be noob. i wish they would do a way with radar all together. makes the game more interesting when you dont rely on little red dots to tell you where everybody is.

as for integrating the suit into MP, well... lol the suit is the game. its what makes the game unique. and once you get used to it, its a very nice thing to have. the tactical options are vast and you can really tailor your style based on what you want to use, making your char more adaptable than just choice of weapons. They DO, however, have a mode thats unlocked i think at lvl 22 thats referred to as "classic".... combat without suits... so when you get there, you can test it out and see how the game is without the suit. might find it boring lol

Thanks man.... I think Scar/Reflex is the same right? I haven't unlocked Feline but I've seen other players use that gun in kill cam.

Thanks man.... I think Scar/Reflex is the same right? I haven't unlocked Feline but I've seen other players use that gun in kill cam.


sent you a request via psn.

reflex is a type of sight used on the wep that lets you see more of your targeting radius than the tritium sights do. (the tritium was a VERY nice touch, btw, good job on the devs) but yeah, SCAR is one of the best. decent rate of fire,enough power to tank anything in a few well placed hits, or even just one solid head shot. there are other weps better im sure, but i havent gotten to them yet, and even when i do, they will be specialized im sure. the SCAR can be effectively used by any type of player.

I understand accuracy. I mean to deal with the inconsistency of black ops (horrible game) I would use the FAL and M14 because the "good guns" would work some days and poor other days. I don't have a problem with the gun themselves, its just that something doesn't feel quite right a lot of the time. Stating it clearly I just can't tell if I was truly outplayed or if it is connection. Also like I mentioned there are a few bugs that need to be addressed as far as lasting frames of cars and the ground pound.

Wish a forum moderator would ban nigeldocker or whatever his name is because he puts a wall of text in every stinking topic.

because hes a griefing jackass.

bro, i honestly stopped reading it about 3 lines in. it sounds like standard trash talk. Yes, by way of probability, if we complain, they will probably fix the issue... but im going to take the liberty of informing you of a very important life lesson... there aint **** you can change when a corporation is in control of it. it will never happen. we are at their mercy, and until we grow some balls as a people, that will never change. and since people have become habitually more pacifist over the years, i dont see those balls coming any time soon. but do my a favor. take your post out of my thread. its a specific thread for a specific purpose. your post there is hindering that.

i just would like to beable to grab someone up like i can in single player

and throw him off or into objects

a full quality HD 720p TV [or 1080 but for games 720] full quality HD gaming system, and now ive got a game thats been bigged up the last 2 years that isn't even full 720p HD [bad quality sub-HD, how stupid is that huh, all that fuss brilliant game but because of this it's not even up to date with todays technoligy, otherwise it would be outstanding for a console game on the PS3 .

kk but people can stop this from happening though, it seems they just accept it or are nieve to it, which i have done for a long time but just think its quite stupid. its like having a ferrari and only being able to go 60 MPH and saying 'yeh but its alright though because it's good handling' all so the people in the renault clio think 'yeh this is better than that'. whats the point in that for us the people who make their buisness's what they are, we controll them if anything, or we CAN pretty easily.


thank microsoft and crytek's collusion on that one. Xbox is a far inferior system, yet they insist on pushing themselves into every home and need games to do it. so, in order for a game to be able to port onto multi systems, it needs to be able to meet the requirements of the lowest system. then they port that garbage over to the PS3.

Played some more today, realized the lag is horrible. As far as the shoot out thing goes, yea its lag. I was having crap games all day, Then finally it gave me host, I owned everyone like it wasn't even funny barely breaking even all day long, get host and go 35 and 2. I really think their is something wrong with their match making system too. For some reason every lobby or game your in, The host is always full everyone else is 1 or 2 bar connection while maybe 2 other people get 3 bar connections. So obviously it cant be matching people up correctly for this to be in every single lobby.

A really irritating thing to me is the fact you can’t hear enemy gunfire, what’s up with that? Your getting shot for a minute but no sound to relate where its coming from. (yea I know look at the map for the red dot), either way sound should be there. I think if they put a little more work into the matchmaking system it would do a great deal of good. I can’t believe I don’t have host every time like I always do in P2P. Just the one time and it was awesome owning everyone. Yet I still feel as it is really unfair especially when they are matching the worse people possible with the host, just makes the host advantage stand out like no other.

Other than that I question if the nano suit should have such a huge influence and impact in the multiplayer. I mean I like the function’s of it integrated into the MP, just seems ridiculous if your lagging seconds behind stuff, you never see that stealth person when they get close , lagging. Any who I like the game I really do just question the matchmaking, the huge emphasis on the nano suit capabilities in the MP and that pretty much all right now. Still good game I like it. Just needs a little fine tuning.
I agree about the need t address matchmaking/lag.

but disagree about de-empasising the nano suit powers. if u did that the game would lose its "uniqueness"

After level 28 all game modes have a no suit lobby. Probably the equivalent of barebones in CoD. I'm looking forward to that because honestly the suit is too much factor for my liking. At least the stealth aspect of it.

yea but then the game will become like every other shooter. a bunch of guys in a room with the same guns spraying eachother up hour after hour till they get bored. sounds like COD or KZ3 to me. the suit has options. gives you at least 4 or 5 different options to play with during a match to fine tune your own style. Its not just accuracy with the sights that matter with this game, its your ability to out think your opponents. Its funny power jumping behind someone while they are shooting at you and just obliterating them while they try to figure out where you went. Terminal is a great place to push the suit to its limits.

Ya, but if they based the game sole difference from other shooters soley on the suit, it wouldn't be that great. I'm not minding the suit as much from that earlier post since I found out I had sensitivity set to high. I couldn't turn with the fast movement before, but I'm accustomed to it now. Back to the subject, pretending the suit didn't exist at all it would still have its uniqueness from CoD. Also it still isn't a game that caters to the philosophy we have to give bad players kills too. RC car cough*cough*. Simplicity isn't always a bad thing. My prior shooters that I thoroughly enjoyed before this were Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and CoD 4. Rainbow Six controls felt horrible to me when I switched to CoD but still had lots of fun memories with my old clan on it. CoD 4 is rather simplistic as far as everything but it was the game that started the whole lets compare other shooters to CoD. Basically I'm just saying that developers shouldn't overlook the shooting aspect of an fps for all the bells and whistles.

well i dont think it would have any uniqueness at all. no power slides, no kicking cars into opponents, no stealth, no power, no hyper run, no visor, no buff modules, and no heavy artillery, among many things. Without that, what do you have? Guns, run, jump, shoot... and thats about it.. lol i admit, if they get their **** together and fix these problems the game would still be a contender to COD graphically, but without the suit I think the gameplay would suffer. The new modes are worth trying out, but i know when i played it just didnt feel right. running was sluggish, you have 0 stamina, and for some reason not having stealth really just castrates the game for me. but that is of course a personal preference. I just like how the game plays as it is.

To me, COD could have been a great series. If they focused more on weaponry and boosting the available list of weps, fine tuning the balance a bit more, and of course, getting rid of the perks... perks REALLY crashed the game if you ask me... i mean come on, dudes runnin around gettin shot and exploding after death, infinite stamina, super strength bullets (last time i checked, a 9mm round left the same size hole and was propelled by the same amount of powder in a beretta as it does in an MP5... and most certainly doesnt do any more damage from experience shooting it lol) it became a match of perks. who had the best combo, and after a few months, newbs didnt stand a chance against the onslaught of juggernauts and snipe campers that were rockin max perks against them. it turned an otherwise realistic game into a childish free for all. maps were small and reduced much of gameplay to wild shooting and non stop gunfire sound files for whatever length of time. It just got seriously polluted. I mean come on..... win the round and nuke the playing field? Id say that about wraps it up for the douchebag award for whoever came up with that idea... maybe a few more points to the co-douchebag who approved the idea for implementation in the game... any game can be "fun" given the right atmosphere and gadgets to play with. But think about it on the deep level. For those looking to enjoy fair, realistic, and unadvlterated tactical combat, call of duty wasnt even on their list of choices... neither is crysis to be honest. BUT... its more balanced, more fun, has a lot more balance in the "perks" system, leaving most of them rather passive.. and its original. COD has been pumping the same **** out with different names for the last 4 games already. each developer trying to beat the clock and crank out a new title to make their fast bucks. theres no way they can make a quality effort with a new idea in just a year... its just impossible... all they can do is wipe the slate clean on an old engine and rebuild the maps while throwing in a few new tidbits and content options to give you SOME reason to justify paying them yet another $60 for their otherwise useless paperweight of a disc.. its pathetic if you ask me. the infinity ward/treyarch war is just destroying the COD name. and then there is this business about them selling out to microsoft (which is also big news supposedly for crytek) to make the 360 version run better to boost their sinking reputation.

COD hasnt been a genuinely good game since COD2. the original modern warfare was a good foundation, even with the addition of the perks, but still needed work. ever since then, its been a landslide...