what faction you think the devs favored? in the signature background in the main menu its an ncr ranger, and in fo3 main menu it was a BoS dude.

NCR in quantity.
House in quality.
Yes man in choice.
Legion got sent to the head master.

However the people of the Mojave got the love, as it should be.
Wastelanders unite, free Mojave, free love.

They def favored the NCR in this game... I keep hearing playing the Legion play through is really short because there aren't many quests, and it's hard as hell because the NCR will be all over your ass. That's why I'm saving it for my third play through so it's nice and quick.

None got favoured, but the Legion got the shaft. NCR's got the most quests, but House/Yes man players can do the majority of these with no problem.

NCR. If you piss off the NCR, half the game is shut out to you. Most of Vegas is hostile, tons of quests are shut out, one of the best vendors is cut off...

They favored the NCR big time.

But ive always liked the BoS so ill say id like to see a BoS on screen.

I'd say most factions got screwed over except for a few like Kings, FotA, House and NCR.
The rest feels very rushed with NPC's, quests, dialogue, area, history.
The biggest among them all is of course Legion.

And that is one of the biggest issues for me, if you create a game then you need to put equal love to every side you can choose to join.
I don't know how the actual development process went through, but I'm close to saying that Obsidian did crap development when it came to Legion.
Sorry Obsi, but you boasted about the factions and joining them and crap but failed to deliver.
I also remembered hearing Sir Inculta was going to have some sort of Dark Brotherhood'ish quest line.

*sigh*

Still waiting for that Legion DLC.

FO1 cover is a BoS (to be fair it could just a guy in T-51b Power Armour)
FO2 cover Enclave
Tactics BoS
FO3 BoS
New Vegas NCR Ranger

All made by different Devs (some have cross overs) so just going by covers it would be BoS.

Still, BoS play little to no role in FO1 and FO2. New Vegas as well.

TBH Gabriel more and more I'm getting the impression that CL was just in the game because they needed "baddies" and they fit.
That with all the fans of the first games talking about the VB factions, they needed to put in something to make them happy.
I personally think that if the dam was not a central piece of scenery in the Mojave the faction would have been scrapped.
All the other changes they made they spent time on and with the new stuff they had fun, here it was more like filler imo.

Yes, yes and yes. But you also have to realize they go the them game done in 18 months.

Caesar Legion supporter here, so yeah, wants more Legion quest, the game is too centered on the Corrupted Bureaucrats NCR

Fillers.... do you mean, Jackals, Vipers and Fiends, without mentioning Powder Gangers, they are more baddies filler every other evil Faction

Yup, feels like Legion was put in in a haste.


So?
Still doesn't excuse the bias.
Instead they "seem" to have focused on NCR and House too much.
I use "seem" loosely because maybe what Legion is "is" their final design.

They should've made time for more design on Legion as well.
Honestly feels like Obsidian was kinda "meh" about Legion which makes me wonder why they chose that faction as a main quest path if they're not as "yay" about it as they are for the others.



Apart from previous lore about Vipers, are there any info on them?
I mean, for them and Jackals it'd be nice with at least a holotape or two yknow.
I reaaally hate filler factions.
Previous games has also had them (Yakuza from FO2 for example) and I hated it just as much back then.
If a faction is put into the game then let us interact with it other than target practice.
Even if it's only one quest to get on their good sides.

NCR definantly... If you weren't their friends then basically 95% of the game is cut off, it's just ridicules.

House is barely a faction, just one guy witha lot more secuitrons then he uses

the Legion is defiantly the evil faction, and are really hard to find, although they were out numbering the NCR in the First Battle of the Hoover Dam.

All other factions were either getting owned, being ignored, or alllied with the NCR.

It looks at first like they favored ncr, but it's more eqaul in the endings to me. Some ups and downs,some thriving some failing. Though my favorite factions will always be nor and bos!

I think they favoured the NCR and fell down on letting us see how the Legion operates as a society. I suppose that's difficult as their presence is as an invading army, though a depiction of some kind of functioning legion town behind their lines would have been interesting.
I reckon they dropped the ball a bit with the Legion quests. You wouldn't have to have been hated by the NCR and thus it be difficult to move round their territory unmolested to decide you wanted to work for the Legion from the start; they could have created a very interesting series of Legion quests where you basically become a frumentarii, working to destabilise their enemies covertly without being noticed. They already have one sabotage quest that does exactly this - they could have had many more similar covert quests. Until you finally reveal your true allegiance to Caesar. I'd be happy with a DLC that just added a big bunch of Legion quests. They deserved far more fleshing out than they got. Though the climatic battle for them is, IMO, the most fun.

Yeah the powder gangers actually had a more seemingly blended story arc than CL to me.
First quest they're involved with, 3 / 4 more at their main base, each with a few ways to deal with it.
Then they pop up all over the place, with another large base dealing with a multi path quest again.
Their members are scattered all over the western map, not entiely sure but it seems they have more area than CL.



They did put a little bit of info, but only on the darn speedy load menu.
Paraphrased "The Vypers and Jackals were once proud tribes, that due to the brutality at the hands of the NCR have become hostile raiders targeting all they come across".
That and "watch out there's two warring groups of raiders up ahead" from the no named trooper at Primm.
Basically put it means we needed some different baddies to fill in for "Raiders", but we also needed a name as we dislike genero baddies.
A lot more non hostile maybe bad guys, with dialogue is always a good thing I agree with you 100% on that.

This is pretty much the best answer in this thread.

CL did get the shaft. Honestly if the devs wanted baddies, they should have just made loads of fiends. If you work for CL alot you basically cant go to crimson caravan, cant do half the quests, and half the time you have to wear NCR amour. And CL has about half the number of quests NCR has

Caesar Legion needs more love, Mr House too, but Im more oriented to Caesar than House

Maybe the lore put the NCR as a main superpower since that they existed nearly much before than every other faction, and prospered, and expanded, and corrupted, and killed, etc

Mr. House may not get the spotlight, but for those who take the time to explore the game deeply, Mr. House has very good story, background, and dialogue. Caesar, apart from Caesar himself, Caesars Legion is pretty much the bad guy of New Vegas, and the way the game plays, it is VERY clear that CL is the intended enemy. Most of the time you'll fight Caesars Legion.

Mr. House- CL is your enemy (As long as you dont go picking on the NCR before the end)
NCR- CL is your enemy
Indepent- CL (As long as you dont go picking on the NCR before the end)

I mean, you have the option of keeping the NCR nice to the end. CL there is no choice. One COULD say this is do to Caesars uncomprimising nature, but honestly, I just say it's very restricting if you support Caesar.

...RAHGWANHAKAHMEHMAEHMAEHAE

I want to write a speech about CL, but I will just say this: Caesar's Legion views everyone outside of them unclean and needed to be assimilated (lololborg) into the Legion to have 'culture'. :stare:

I have to agree with most people here. The NCR, Yes-Man and House are mostly good with a few bad points, (or little things that could have been done better). You can play 75, maybe 80% of the game without having to make a choice between any of these three. I just did the Legion play through and I was finished with everything up to the final battle by level 15. So I had to waste time killing off the NCR bases untill I gained high enough level and acquired enough firepower to take on
general Oliver and friends. Clearly the Legion needs more things to do.

I am not a fan of the Legion (yet anyways). I don't hate them. I just did not see enough of them. What I got form the game. NCR was in the Mojave first and are better established. The Legion are the new guys and are stuck on the East side of the Colorado. Being Slavers and all they are not much liked by the freedom loving people of the Mojave. NCR is not like much because of their laws and Taxes.