haha alright that made me chuckle. I concede on that point. :bowdown:

No I see where you're coming from Gizmo.
I personally think if you look at the games the styles shift over time a fair bit.
Again this is just my view and not meant to disprove or prove anyones opinion.

FO1 had the 80's in outfits and grimmy anti establishment vibe, it took heavily from Mad Max, a boy and his dog, and terminator in feel.
Added in the whole one man one gun come to set the world a'right vibe.

FO2 made it less 80's added in a more jokey vibe, turned up the Science.
Put focus on things like the movie industry, trade, gambling, big goverment, big cities, mad scientists even adding the whole pre war communist vs the capitalists history.

FO3 did kind'a copy the first two, but it copied imo the grimy wasteland of FO1, but the whole retro shtick of FO2 and then went into overdrive with it.

NV I must say is more like FO1 in its handling of era, allowing any pre war vibe to be formed.
From punk 80', Hippy 60's, swinging 50's and post war late 40's, but not focusing heavily on any.


You may still be dissapointed tbh, I am slightly.
NV offers after awhile both early on and late game, nothing but combat avoidence.
If diplomacy and intelligent resolutions are your thing NV can fail compared to other FO's and holds no candle to PS: T.

I have three copies of it :laugh:

BTW Chris Avelone wrote a lot if not most of it.

**I should mention though... that I actually do like combat on FO1&2 and have several times said that its 50% of the game to me as far as enjoyment goes.
I admit that I kind of have a double standard for TB games in particular.

I just have the one original copy, locked away in a safe place.

I know that man is a god at least untill I meet him irl, you can see the influences on dialogue and characters in NV of the writers from Black Isle.
You know just some way a character speaks or is drawn out, and you think this seems right and familiar.

For 10 years I wondered if they cast Michael T Weiss as Nameless, because he was famous for playing the Pretender.

I managed to ask Mr. Avelone about it..:shrug: and/but he said that the actor's schedule just happened to be free at the right time and the audition worked out.
That company was charmed. Fallout shows it too [I think] with developmental flukes and strange coincidences.

But they are not the only ones :shrug:

Todd Howard said that one of the manikins they used for the Fallout 3 PR turned out to be the same one used in the latest Indiana Jones film, in the test town that was nuked.

I am closing this for review - I can see one very inappropriate remark and as often happens when some members get into this kind of thread it has been dragged off topic.

OK, I have read it, deleted a couple of posts then realised there had been other posts also deleted from this topic. I am leaving it closed.