Okay so before I post my question I'm gonna let rip my opinion after all every question is a statement in disguise so why waste time? From a consumer standpoint if you are not interested in the new consoles but instead only gameplay then in the first 3 years of new consoles how will they affect your life? Well if history is any indicator you'll have to put up with cheaper games (OMG how awful!).

Then there's the purchase price, well many people I know with present gen consoles replaced them with either a 1st or 2nd, 2nd hand replacement last year (that is to say all replacements were 2nd hand but in some cases it was the 2nd replacement they had needed due to the failure of the initial 2nd hand replacement). I know because it was on their Facebook status. At what point is it better to just pay out for a new one I don't know but at that point if new consoles are out you have the option of paying out for a PS4 or getting the PS3 which will then almost certainly be made cheaper because of the fact it is no longer ruling the console roost so to speak.

Obviously if you own a high end PC it's good because it means console no longer holds PC gaming back.

So what is your opinion on new consoles? Do you want them or not?

Actually I think I don't. PCs are quite cheap nowadays and can do a lot more than consoles, they can be modified, they are more custimizable. Console games are also a lot more expensive than PC games, at least in some countries. So I don't think people will have a problem affording an OK gaming computer if they perhaps save a little bit more, but catch up the money on the games so to say.

The advantages I can see with not having consoles are that without consoles, developers can focus on one platform, that will mean less work for developers, less money they have to spend on production, wich means more money for productions, more time or cheaper prices on games with same quality. I'm aware that perhaps medium-end computer would rule the PC market, however it would still, I believe, be easier for developers to develop on one platform and add some extra eye candy for those with high-end computers.

Developers would also have more time to optimize games for PC, meaning medium-end computers hardware would be used better. I believe developers focusing on optimizing for medium-end hardware would lead to a faster graphics evolution in games.
Developers would not be limited by the limitations that come with developing for consoles, for example small amount of memory. Neither would they have to pay royalties to Sony and Microsoft. All in all they would probably make bigger profit than today. Also it would do all the hardware manufacturers good, there would be a higher demand. Perhaps more gamers would learn how to build their own computers, and gain more knowledge of computer hardware. HP, DELL and other computer companies are quite expensive in comparision to building your own computer.

I think more people would take the step to start their own game company because they no longer have to think about gamers being spread over multiple different platforms. Developers would also be less careful about "taking chances", trying new formulas in games, being innovative because once again having gamers on one platform would mean that all gamers who might be interested, no longer are spread out over three different platforms, but one, PC. Also the production cost would not be as high as today, making risks less of a problem.

Today Sony and Microsoft have to pay hardware manufacturers lots of money for them to produce special hardware. Because if they put hardware that already exists into the consoles, people would know what's inside and by knowing that they would compare prices with building a computer with better hardware, also they would compare the consoles with ones each other and have more concrete evidence of which one is better. That's also what makes it hard for developers, they have to code for different hardware architectures.

Come to think of it, it's probably good for gaming developers in a way right now, at this very moment, that there are consoles, because if there weren't they would have to change to programming for PC-games, and there would probably be enough in the game company already, meaning them losing their jobs. But the amount of PC games companies would increase, so they would probably find jobs easier.

This is what I can come to think of right now, still I'm not sure how it would be if consoles didn't exist, this is only what I think might happen.

I also believe PC is the only way to a single platform any time soon mainstream cloud gaming isn't ready for a long time yet as far as I know, and by the time ISP's can support a high usage of HD cloud gaming maybe people will want some type of 3D visuals and other things demanding even more bandwidth. It even seems possible IMO that improving input/output technology could outrun the cloud forever due to bandwith limits.

For example as motion controllers get better there has to be more data going into the cloud otherwise whats the point? If I ever get into motion control for example I won't want to see a character follow my movement not complete one of 18 pre determined movements based on which is closest to mine.

So it's all more and more bandwidth up and down stream from where I sit and I don't know that ISP's will handle it that well.

But I'm no expert.

I have my faith on PCs.

lol. Sony must've been reading this because as of today

http://spong.com/article/23742/Sony-on-PS4-in-Developement-Were-Not-Saying

IT'S ON!

I have my faith on PCs.

True but new consoles tend to give PC a boost IMO even before they're released. Lets say you are considering making a game that only runs on high settings with a GTX580. You can justify developing such a game more easily if you know you can port it to PS4 6 months later.

I have my faith on PCs.

True but new consoles tend to give PC a boost IMO even before they're released. Lets say you are considering making a game that only runs on high settings with a GTX580. You can justify developing such a game more easily if you know you can port it to PS4 6 months later.

But still if there were no consoles, graphics in games would probably evolve faster. There would be a bigger demand for it and also, medium-end computers already outmatch consoles. If all gamers were PC gamers, medium-end computers would also become low-end much faster since there would be a bigger demand for computer hardware. More people would be able to afford powerfull (still being medium-end) computers and that's what developers would target the most. If there will be any new consoles I do hope they come out soon because otherwise graphics in multiplatform games will probably be held back, as it already has. It's nice to see developers that still push PC, thanks for that Crytek.

Okay so before I post my question I'm gonna let rip my opinion after all every question is a statement in disguise so why waste time? From a consumer standpoint if you are not interested in the new consoles but instead only gameplay then in the first 3 years of new consoles how will they affect your life? Well if history is any indicator you'll have to put up with cheaper games (OMG how awful!).

Then there's the purchase price, well many people I know with present gen consoles replaced them with either a 1st or 2nd, 2nd hand replacement last year (that is to say all replacements were 2nd hand but in some cases it was the 2nd replacement they had needed due to the failure of the initial 2nd hand replacement). I know because it was on their Facebook status. At what point is it better to just pay out for a new one I don't know but at that point if new consoles are out you have the option of paying out for a PS4 or getting the PS3 which will then almost certainly be made cheaper because of the fact it is no longer ruling the console roost so to speak.

Obviously if you own a high end PC it's good because it means console no longer holds PC gaming back.

So what is your opinion on new consoles? Do you want them or not?
So is that the 2nd 2nd or the 3rd 2nd, or was it just a trade of for a stack of 2nd hand games is all i can say,

lol, soz m8

Okay so before I post my question I'm gonna let rip my opinion after all every question is a statement in disguise so why waste time? From a consumer standpoint if you are not interested in the new consoles but instead only gameplay then in the first 3 years of new consoles how will they affect your life? Well if history is any indicator you'll have to put up with cheaper games (OMG how awful!).

Then there's the purchase price, well many people I know with present gen consoles replaced them with either a 1st or 2nd, 2nd hand replacement last year (that is to say all replacements were 2nd hand but in some cases it was the 2nd replacement they had needed due to the failure of the initial 2nd hand replacement). I know because it was on their Facebook status. At what point is it better to just pay out for a new one I don't know but at that point if new consoles are out you have the option of paying out for a PS4 or getting the PS3 which will then almost certainly be made cheaper because of the fact it is no longer ruling the console roost so to speak.

Obviously if you own a high end PC it's good because it means console no longer holds PC gaming back.

So what is your opinion on new consoles? Do you want them or not?
So is that the 2nd 2nd or the 3rd 2nd, or was it just a trade of for a stack of 2nd hand games is all i can say,

lol, soz m8

One of em said he got a good deal on a PS3 a move and some games for ￡150 this time, the other one I don't remember details.

My brothers incidentally has a working PS3 that is just sitting here on my wardrobe floor in the original box LOL (is why I remember these statuses I figure he might as well sell it). But I could never get hold of him plus he doesn't need the money so...

Plus one thing I find surprising and you know PS3 is old news when this happens my 13 year old cousin has had a school freinds PS3 in her house for ages, and she said she doesn't use it much either.

My PS3 has a dedicated 24/7 job of dust collector. Its not even worth selling it, i would make less money off that than I would selling ONE of my PC parts...

So yeah, it will continue to collect dust.