I have a problem...

Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:23 pm

Hello, I have a problem. It has caused me to not play RPGs.
It may be hard to understand, but let me start off by saying that I love RPGs, specially Fallout (New Vegas).
My problem is that I have an obsession with creating a character that is perfect in my vision. I could spend up to an hour in the facial customization, and spending hours making a choice. For example, I recently stopped playing New Vegas as I reconsidered my choice to take money as a reward for a quest and didn't have an earlier save (or if I did, didn't want to do it all over again). I kept thinking to myself "Would he do that? Would he of done it for free?" etc. I also bought all of the cigarettes , chems, etc. and alcohol at every store I visited and through them in the middle of nowhere as my character is against that sort of thing and wouldn't want people to have access to it. Some things stop me from playing a game altogether. Let me share an example:

I have never played Dragon Age: Origins. The reason for this is because I couldn't decide if my perfect character in my vision would be a mage, rogue, warrior and whatever race. "Since he is an Atheist and very high-technology, would he be a mage or are mages really religious? Are rogues and warriors considered stone-age like compared to mages as they use physical weapons?".

However, I never look up strategy guides or walkthroughs as I still like to play the game the way it was made for. Maybe I could say my problem is that I try to make my experience the best possible I could.

I come here to ask for guidance. I want to enjoy RPGs again. Please help me.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:24 pm

Working with Mr. House probably has the least amount of consequences of any path, unless you like the brotherhood of steel. There are surgeries at this place called New Vegas Medical Clinic that can enhance each of your special stats by 1, but it's expensive. There are skill books all over the wasteland that can each increase one of your skills by 3. You can make it 4 if you take the comprehension perk. Skill books are more valuable than just raising your intelligence. IMO intelligence of 4 is good enough and then raise it by 1 with a surgery. If you want to be a master in combat, having a high Luck/Agility/Perception becomes essential.
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Post » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:39 am

Working with Mr. House probably has the least amount of consequences of any path, unless you like the brotherhood of steel. There are surgeries at this place called New Vegas Medical Clinic that can enhance each of your special stats by 1, but it's expensive. There are skill books all over the wasteland that can each increase one of your skills by 3. You can make it 4 if you take the comprehension perk. Skill books are more valuable than just raising your intelligence. IMO intelligence of 4 is good enough and then raise it by 1 with a surgery. If you want to be a master in combat raising up your Luck/Agility/Perception becomes essential.


Um, what? Did you post this in the wrong topic?
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:23 pm

Um, what? Did you post this in the wrong topic?


Ugh, you said you wanted to make like a perfect character right? Well I just gave a very broad sense of how to make your "perfect character".
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Post » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:10 am

Ugh, you said you wanted to make like a perfect character right? Well I just gave a very broad sense of how to make your "perfect character".


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Post » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:52 am

Rule #1: To err is human. Both for you AND you characters.

What you have to do is understand that your characters won't be perfect. Nobody is. I'm not. You're not. Why should your characters be? We all make mistakes and so should your characters. Make them learn from then, just like we should. Make the mistakes they make have an impact on their life, just like it does to us. Sometimes bad things happen from the [censored] we do. Sometimes good things happen for no reason also.

I suggest as a vehicle for you to break your impass that you make a flawed character on purpose. Flawed characters can be a blast to play. Play a 1 intelligence character who honestly believes they're a Ranger (but of course, they're not. They're just delusional) Play a bipolar character, or a schitzophrenic, or a sociopath or an OCD hypochondriac. Just do something so far from perfect that any mistakes *you* make can be blamed on your character, and then have them live with the consequences. Basically make a perfectly unperfect character the perfect role play.

Edit: Another thing. This game has at least 4 playthroughs just to experience all of the content. There is no *perfect* playthrough, at least from that standpoint, so run someone through, make a new character and see what's different. If you want "the best experience possible", then that would be playing at least 4 character anyways.

-Gunny out.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:44 pm

Yup thats what I would do, basiclly just go around and screw things up as badly as you can, the game is so big you'll actually still find a lot of cool stuff not to mention having some funny storys to tell.

Oh and silly Paladin Dune, NCR is clearly the best way to go in this game, not House :disguise:
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:00 pm

Wow OP, that's some compulsion you got going there. Not being mean, just an objective observation. I have those tendencies. I mentioned my companion quest compulsion in another thread, must do them all, every play through. I hate that damn dog too.

As to your situation. I suggest the first time through any RPG just make the "Loveable Buffoon" type. A guy/gal who stumbles through life on their own terms. Let the chips fall where they may. That way you can get a preview of the choices you'll be making with that character you put an hour and a half of face making time with.

I will warn you however, in Fallout New Vegas there are very few black and white outcomes to situations. One thing I love the game for. There is almost always a downside to every decision you make. Keeps us totalitarian perfectionists in check.

Good luck, hope this helps.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:52 pm

Hello, I have a problem. It has caused me to not play RPGs.
It may be hard to understand, but let me start off by saying that I love RPGs, specially Fallout (New Vegas).
My problem is that I have an obsession with creating a character that is perfect in my vision. I could spend up to an hour in the facial customization, and spending hours making a choice. For example, I recently stopped playing New Vegas as I reconsidered my choice to take money as a reward for a quest and didn't have an earlier save (or if I did, didn't want to do it all over again). I kept thinking to myself "Would he do that? Would he of done it for free?" etc. I also bought all of the cigarettes , chems, etc. and alcohol at every store I visited and through them in the middle of nowhere as my character is against that sort of thing and wouldn't want people to have access to it. Some things stop me from playing a game altogether. Let me share an example:

I have never played Dragon Age: Origins. The reason for this is because I couldn't decide if my perfect character in my vision would be a mage, rogue, warrior and whatever race. "Since he is an Atheist and very high-technology, would he be a mage or are mages really religious? Are rogues and warriors considered stone-age like compared to mages as they use physical weapons?".

However, I never look up strategy guides or walkthroughs as I still like to play the game the way it was made for. Maybe I could say my problem is that I try to make my experience the best possible I could.

I come here to ask for guidance. I want to enjoy RPGs again. Please help me.
I don't understand the problem? It sounds like you are a great RPG player. :shrug:

**IMO most mages would be considered a scientist of the occult, but not exactly atheist, as they have probably seen a few things with their own eyes that would cement the belief that such things exist in their world.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:55 pm

Hello, I have a problem.

I come here to ask for guidance. I want to enjoy RPGs again. Please help me.


Well, recognizing you have a problem is the first of the twelve steps towards..... oh, sorry, Wrong meeting.

Hmm... you sound seriously anol... with a full whallop of OCD in the bargain. Good. At least you're relatively normal for a true RPG'er. Although letting those diseases traits drive you to the point of not even being able to play an RPG game, now that's getting out there. I'd take Gunny's advice, and throw yourself into a massively imperfect character, and wallow in that delicious imperfection until you reach some sort of equilibrium from whence you can once again play RPG's without a self-induced brainfreeze. Good luck, and break a leg!
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Post » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:03 am

Well, recognizing you have a problem is the first of the twelve steps towards..... oh, sorry, Wrong meeting.

Hmm... you sound seriously anol... with a full whallop of OCD in the bargain. Good. At least you're relatively normal for a true RPG'er. Although letting those diseases traits drive you to the point of not even being able to play an RPG game, now that's getting out there. I'd take Gunny's advice, and throw yourself into a massively imperfect character, and wallow in that delicious imperfection until you reach some sort of equilibrium from whence you can once again play RPG's without a self-induced brainfreeze. Good luck, and break a leg!

I gotta be honest here, my 1 IN Ranger Groupie was BY FAR the most entertaining playthrough I've had out of the 10 or more PTs I've started. Just the special dialog alone is enough to make it unique, but RPing a deluded cretin and seeing how she would get herself into situations and then resolve them was an absolute blast. There were even times when I would make a mechanical mistake, eg. accidently selecting the wrong dialog option, and I would go "Gosh, what an idiot. I can't believe she's so stupid!" and just RP that mistake right into her personna. Making your characters have to live with the repercussions of *your own* mistakes can actually be pretty interesting. Think of it kinda like a "Dead is Dead" playthrough, but more like "Stupid is Stupid". If you make a mistake, you can't reload to correct it. You/your pc has to deal with the consequences.

And one more thing: As for the character generation issues, ie. getting the face perfect and choosing stats/skills, it may be hard for you to do, but you could just force yourself to go "Russian Roulette". Click randomize face, and stick with it. When picking stats, go to the last page and allocate all of your 40 points with your eyes closed, or roll some dice to get random numbers. Randomly answer the Doc's questions and take whatever tag skills you are given. Think about it. When you were born, did you have any choice for how strong, or athletic or charismatic you would be? Did you have any choice over whether you are a natural at piano or couldn't play a tune if your life depended on it? Of course not. Force your character to have the same limitations imparted on them. Roll a character randomly and then use their strenths/weakness to build their personality. End up with a low charisma character? Great. Make them disablingly self-conscious with overpowering self-esteem issues. End up with low perception? RP them like the guy who always calls you the next day to tell you he finally got the joke. Just roll/role (pun intended) with what you start with. That's an even *better* role play, since you are forced to let your character dictate what they are, rather than you dictating to your character what they *must* be.

-gunny out.
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Post » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:29 pm

Welcome to the forums.(UBER)

Sincerely,

Ace Hanlon.

But i think your over thinking this. Just need to be-able to let things go and then you can really enjoy yourself.
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