Is this game going for a mature?rating right off the bat? meaning will it have all its cussing and darkness and blood and chaos that make fallout fallout?

Chris mentioned that there's an age requirement for beta testing, so I think that implies a Fallout with six, drugs and rock and roll.

Aren't most MMO's these days 16+ ? Or whatever the "Teen" rating is in the country you live in, some are higher or lower.

I assume they want to appeal to every corner of the market possible, and 16-20 year olds are a large market for MMO's Goooooooood Morning Vietnaaamm!

18+ is what I'm hoping for. Look at AOC (sorry for the mention, but diff genre). A mature game, nudity, drunkenness, debauchery and lots of other good stuff. Hell, run naked (basically) if you want to... just means you get injured easier, but it'd be funny. Get drunk, make it last 20min or so based on total consumption. All drugs (other than basic stimpacks) should have some type of ongoing screen effect. six, Drugs, Nudity, Alcohol, and just Good old advlt stuff.

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Unfortunatly, AOC, in my opinion... was just an empty shell. Sure, a good looking shell, but there was no actual substance to it.

It more felt like their 18+ was a selling point, nothing more. Because all the 18+ content just felt like it was added for shockvalue, nothing else.

So no I think that gamesas should ignore aiming for a certain rating, and just make FOO the game they want it to be... and then see what rating it get's. Rather then aiming for a rating, and doing what they can to pump in stuff above that rating... like AOC did.

To me the "18+" is often just a gimmick, and usualy more childish then anything.

How much of AOC did you play? There is plenty of content. Multiple zones, with more to be added, storyline and plenty of character classes. I'm not here to argue about the other game though, I'm here because I want this to be as dark and fun as possible. No, they shouldn't Go For a certain rating, they should put everything they want into it and see what rating it gets, on that we agree, but I gotta say, if they put everything from the old games in then there's gonna be a big fat M on the cover.

I do also want FOO to be as close to the original FO's as possible, and if that means an M, so be it. I don't really look at the age rating when I buy games. I just want that feeling back that I had the first time I played these games somewhere around 2001-2002'ish. A big reason why I concider the FO series to be one of, if not the, best PC game series ever, is because it felt like I was playing a pen and paper rpg. And I really liked that, since I played a lot of pen and paper rpg from 1996 and forward.


As for AoC: I will have to admit that I only played it for 2 weeks, for probably atleast 6-10 hours a day, each day... at the release of the game. I was one of those who got to start playing the game befor everyone else. So I played 1 week befor the official release, and 1 weeks after the official release.

As for how much of the game I played? Pretty much all of it that was available at that time. Of course there was not that very much content to be had, which is understandable since it had just come out, AND had been rushed out as well. BUT, even though the lack of content, you would reach max level long befor you had played all the content.

So one thing that bugged me a lot with AOC was the leveling. Befor the game had even opened to the public, I was already in the 70's of level... out of 80. So in about 7 days I had gained 70+ levels already. And I think I reached level 80 on my 10th day of gaming. The last few levels took longer to reach, but only because I started up 3 other characters in my second week of gaming.

So, after 2 weeks of gaming, I had 1 character at max level of 80, one character at about 50 or so, and two characters around roughly lvl 35. And to me that's just... wrong... plain and simply wrong. So I stopped playing, did not even feel that I needed the last 2 free weeks I had left, had already goten everything I needed out of AoC.

I know the game has been updated a lot since then. But a guild friend of mine who went back to play it again at the end of last year said that it was not really that extreamly different from how it was in the start... mainly just more content etc.