lol.. just wanted to see what ppl thought about this subject.. my sister plays FPS games sometimes.. shes pretty good to.. we play alot together on like black ops, modernwarfare, mag, brink.. etc.
well.. she brought to my attention that their not many women characters in FPS games.. and i kinda thought it could be a cool idea to have a woman character in brink. just wondering what you guys though?

lady characters would be a cool addition the only "woman" is the voice of Ishmael in the beginning chaacter maker and the end of the campainge modes

It is weird that FPS games so rarely have female player models.

With Brink's art style and costume options it could be pretty boss.

Maybe in Brink 2.

I'm not a chick but here's how I see it. While I'd be all for it, there are a few barriers which might take extra thought to overcome. The art style for females could go two ways, each with a con. Either the females will need to be ugly to match the style of all those giant-nosed male faces, which I don't see being a popular idea, or they'll end up being ridiculously sixified for sales and subtract from the original games art direction.
Secondly would be the excecution of body-types. As we should all know, women on average have thinner frames. The medium and light body-types of a female would be harder to differentiate for the mediums already skinny physique. They barely got away with male lights not looking malnourished. And then there's the heavy body-type. They need to take steps to make the characters hitboxes believable and fair to their gender counter-part. A muscly woman couldn't get that freakishly bulky and retain any sense of reality. An obese woman of the same width wouldn't be put with a squad whose lives rest in her hands. Even if it went through, to see the sight of some female giant running through a battlefield, even if only occasionally, may bring some pretty comedic reactions. The developers may have thought that they may cut off a large group of people from giving heavy a try just because they didn't want to sacrifice the more attractive female aesthetics, whereas they wouldn't mind so much to try out some lard-arsed, beefcake of a man. Afterall, unless you make an entirely new character, you're stuck with your gender.
Thirdly is a point you can blame purely on men. Not all men, but a big enough group that it comes closer to a stereotype than a niche. Those men that primarily opt to be female characters over male. They're suprisingly abundant to the point where the presence of female characters (note: no longer presumed actual females until proven otherwise) becomes cringe-worthy as opposed to welcomed. They'll use it whether the "I'd rather look at a females ass" excuse is on hand or not. It's only my personal preference however when games male:female ratio are a bit more believable.
When few women are combat ready alongside many men, it raises a point about those women being tough. When there are just as many men as there are women, it makes the males look a bit redundant in their protective nature.
Maybe their reasoning for no female characters isn't as clear as for a game like counter-strike. For that reason they would stay tight-lipped if it was for atmospheric purposes. And of course companies aren't going to jump at the opportunity to tell their fans if instead it was low on the priority list during strict development times.
Finally on a smaller note, some voice acting will have needed line tweaks where characters refer to he/she. Particularly where the Resistance often refer to their allies as brothers.

P.S. Yes I do feel I may have stepped into a sixism minefield having typed this but it's not the intention.
(Checked maybe for Brink.)
P.P.S. Sorry for the wall of text. TL;DR Just reasons I see against, mostly (but not totally) as it would be seen from a developers point of view.

Gears of War did it! This is just becoming an idiotic reason to NOT have woman characters available. It wouldn't surprise me if someday it becomes an issue and some women attack this thought with a rights movement on games with women in it. That said, this is in a way sixist and should be applied no matter what.

P.s.
Im a married man with a gamer wife. She won't play because there is no character to enjoy it with. Congrats on not offering an option for all.

well. brink originally was going to have women in it.. i just read the faq.. they said they couldnt do it because if they did. that they would have to tone down the customizations....

Q: Will there be female characters in Brink?
A: In short: no. Like all developers, Splash Damage faced physical limits on what they could put into the game and had to make the "incredibly tough" choice between massively reducing the variety and quality of character customization in order to make room for new models/animations for female characters, or to keep to their vision of "deep and varied" character creation by focusing only male customization and make that the best they possibly can. "This was a very, very hard decision for us to make", Ham explains, "but we feel that it was the right one for the overall quality of the game." http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1113952-brink-faq/

Just bring women npc's, tie them up to walls and give Hit bonusses, for makin sure the opposits won't reproduce any fresh meat

Makes sense for there to be females in Brink's setting, but being the initial stages of a civil war, they'd likely be discouraged from involvement - same way such things happen in real-world military situations - once the fight escalates, which will almost certainly happen in a sequel, women will take a more active role. Here's hoping Brink 2 has females.

As for the poll, I can't really vote, because for BRINK, no, but for the setting of Brink, yes. And for other shooters, it REALLY depends on the shooter - for some, clearly no way at all, and for others, would be a stupid idea not to include females.

Brink 2 for sure, but the reason Brink doesn't have any is because it would take HUGE cuts on male options to free up the memory space, I've already frozen a couple times in the past week and it can sometimes take FOREVER to load characters. We seriously probably wouldn't even have half the options we do now if they'd gone ahead with females.

Daddy makes war.....mommy makes dinner. :sweat:

Which one? Reason I mean. As you can see my explanation went a little further than "Gears of War did it!". That's set in a world with a desperately low human population. As well as having bulky, non-parkour friendly outfits attached to the visuals to bulk them to the point where there are no advantages for dodging shots. That and they had to go through two games previously before getting to it.
As for the rights movement, you've gotta be kidding. Especially concerning all games. Games take a lot to make and by some their creation is considered an art-craft. To a lesser extreme it would have been like asking the law to take care of Michealangelo for not making a female equivalent to the statue of david.

The only females i've seen in brink were on posters in game, i was actually surprised to even see them there

Missed the option: I could not care less

mind sending a link.. id like to see that poster... lol..
sounds interesting..



i agree with some.. not all shooters need females.. thats why i had maybe as a vote in the poll.. as in a depends kinda thing

With the chosen characterization style of the game, I'd say women would look incredibly, unbelievably ugly. Not just "oh you're shallow ugly", but "put it out of it's misery" ugly.

One of my friends who is quite an artist drew a picture of what he thought a female Brink character would look like and it looked pretty freakin' cool. He softened the face and obviously modified the anatomy to make a reasonable approximation of a female character. It seemed to work.

Where you all are not getting at is, Women are not fighters.. Men are the fighters ( Not being sixist) and it would be hard to outcome something so easily thought of. Sure they can be added in BRINK 2, when things get REALLY out of hand, but for now just leave as is and gve SD and Bethseda some thinking space and let them work out the bugs and start planning BRINK 2.

And for the dude who wont play cause of his wife : Dude. That means you dont play CS, HL2, TF2, Homefront, Crysis 1 & 2 and many many more.

Would love to see that! Can't you post it?

(Yes you are)

Sorry, but you try beating my girlfriend with a Bo staff, then try telling me women aren't fighters. Or my best friend with a Naginata.

If you teach a willing girl to fight to her strengths, she'll beat a guy more often than not.

had a discussion about this last night with a coworker. what i proposed was this.

female body types 3 like males, the women are smalller and faster. a heavy women will have the mobility and capabilities of a medium male(faster and more agile than male heavy, can't carry heavy weapons.)
medium woman will have running speed and load out restrictions of medium male, mobility of light male, and less health than medium male. light female is faster than light male, with same load out restrictions, but slightly less health.

slight tweaks in weapon recoil to accomadate the smaller female frame, sounds like fun to me.

worst first post ever.

Females not fighters?


Nothing is more DANGEROUS than a angry mother fighting to protect her child. If you learn them to use weapons aswell, they can become quite deadly.

Did you know Khadaffi (Dictator in Libya) elite bodyguard force are all females?


You might not be sixist, but you sure have no knowledge about female Warriors and females used in war.

Onna-Bushi were WELL revered and respected warriors in Japan during Sengoku Jidai. Infact, they were much better fighters than most menn.

Many japanese women were trained to fight with a Naginata to protect their homes while the menn were fighting! As when armies are out fighting, towns and homes were quite vournarable to bandit raids.


The Viking Females were also good fighters aswell when trained so. Where else did the Valkrye myths spawn from? Obviusly, females fighting alongsides the vikings during wars.



In world war 2. The top sniper ACES of Soviet Union were FEMALES. The soviet also had a Female FIGHTER ACE pilot.


Did you know, despite Menn beeing physically stronger / have easier time building up their bodies.

Females have much higher and longer Adrealine rush than menn, The Human female body produces much more adrealine and Endorfin than the male body.
Wich again, makes them have much faster reactions and much more resillient to pain than MENN.

They might be physically weaker, but they they are mentally stronger and able to supress pain better than menn.

I've defended the women in Brink view point, but recently had a change of mind. Women chars don't belong in Brink, and I don't want to sound sixist or anything. The reason is that with the story of Brink doesn't allow it. Thats all. They didn't put women in for multiple reasons and I'm okay with that I guess.