M.A.X.

Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:49 pm

In my humble opinion, MAX was and still is probably the best turn-based strategy game ever made (well, one of a couple, 3DO RIP). Too bad that the original game was so buggy and not perfectly balanced, and the second game went absolutely wrong. However, in spite of that I still think it was an amazing game, pure strategy at its best, I’d say chess of the present. In addition, an amazing design and absolutely astounding, mesmerizing soundtrack! (the music was OMFG! plus, on top of that female "computer" voice!!! Simply the best!)
No matter how much I love the Fallout series, I would definitely sell my soul for a descent MAX remake. Though I would really hate to see any “innovations and improvements”, the game doesn’t need any.
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RObert loVes MOmmy
 
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:24 pm

I would sell mine too.
Loved this game, pure strategy.
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:53 pm

I'm trying to make your wish a reality. See http://www.maxthegame.de .
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:19 pm

hi@all

I have a MAX Clone Project too.
the question is: can I use the graphic′s and sound′s from the Original?

GreyEnt
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:48 pm

M.a.x 1 is the very best strategy game! I never playing the M.a.x 2, where I find? :ugeek:
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:21 pm



I worked on M.A.X.2 and I wouldn't suggest it. M.A.X. is the better game.

pax,
-Chris
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Post » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:43 am

Listen to Chris. He knows whereof he speaks. MAX 2 was a huge wrong turn. It tried to be all things to all people and failed. I remember someone (Gus Smedstat?) racking up the bullet points on the MAX 2 website before it was published and he had lots of us salivating. But it just went all wrong somewhere along the line.

Whose house do we need to T.P. to get a MAX remake, Chris? It's a shame that THE greatest strategy game ever made still languishes in such obscurity...
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:58 pm



You can buy both MAX and MAX 2 as a digital download together in a bundle for $5.99 at GOG.com:

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/m_a_x_m_a_x_2

GOG is currently in beta, but If you want a GOG invite, I can give you one.

I worked on M.A.X.2 and I wouldn't suggest it. M.A.X. is the better game.


Probably why they're bundled together at GOG. The Vault - Fallout Wiki * Fallout Online * Fallout IRC Channel * Fallout: New Vegas
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:09 pm

Is the MAX und MAX2 from the GOG bundle revised? So that I can play in Network without hangups?
Or is it the garbage produced in 1997 ?

How can I contact a person about Copyright′s reverable the Clone?

GreyEnt
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:01 pm



I dunno, but if you find out, let me know and I'll buy the TP.

pax,
-Chris
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:18 pm

Where M.A.X. 2 went wrong is in departing from the turn-based nature of the original, as well as giving chance an expanded role from the original; it felt too much like Starcraft, which had better graphics, music, ... well, everything.
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Post » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:01 am




sorry, what does TP mean? :?
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:56 pm

Toilet Paper

In this case, it refers to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_papering

pax,
-Chris
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:26 pm

Hello all!

My favorite strategy game is still MAX1. It's graphics, the sound effects/music/voices, the whole design and atmosphere of the game is awesome! I still have an old PC with Sound Blaster sound card and Windows 98 just to play this game in its original glory. I purchased both MAX1 and MAX2 when they came out a decade ago.

In MAX2 I missed the connectors and the need to manage raw materials the most (xfer). MAX2 has wonderful ART drawings for the units/buildings. Once I read it in a magazine that the developer team even won awards for the ARTs of MAX2.


Really, the most unfortunate thing is that MAX1 has serious memory handling issues and other bugs as well. After a few hundred turns, when half of the map is my sole Base :), the game begins to crash time to time or generate strange anomalies, like undestroyable objects or disappearing units from depo/hangar/barracks. I even seen bad map references, so if I shoot the ground at X,Y position, a unit on X+3,Y-4 would be destroyed :P

The latest official patch version is 1.04, but there is an 1.56 ALPHA build floating around on the Internet. So there MUST have been further development on the game at gamesas. Unfortunately, the 1.56 version is somewhat unstable and it uses the same DOS4GW module, so I think it's memory handling is also not on top :(


I hope in the future one of the following actions will be taken into consideration by gamesas:

- publish the source code of MAX1 like Strategy First did with the Jagged Alliance 2 title, or as ID Software did it with the Quake 1-3 titles. Jagged Alliance 2 now have a stable developer team built up from fans of the game and lots of new features/bugfixes have been made to the original JA2 v1.12 for absolutely free:
http://ja2v113.pbwiki.com/
The game is still sold commercially by the publisher, the "fan" developer team only makes patches to the original, official game. I think that this is a very good partnership between the publisher and the gamers/fans. Both sides can be satisfied with the results.


- In Eastern Europe MAX1 still has a strong player basis. There are well known international community Web pages where (mainly the German and Russian) M.A.X. players can gather, talk about the game in forums, and with the help of IPX to TCP/IP converter applications, play online under Win9x/Windows XP/Vista.

There is a robust documentation available on the Internet about the various bugs of MAX 1.00 to 1.04 that was observed during the years. The player's community would be eager to help to develop a community-released patch for MAX1 for absolutely free. There are examples to this kind of game support from official license owners of other games. A good and not too old example would be Gothic 3, developed by Piranha Bytes, where the Community was allowed/forced to write bugfix patches after Piranha Bytes stopped supporting the game and left JoWood.

I think gamesas should consider this possibility. A partnership between gamesas and a well organized small developer team forged from the M.A.X. community members would help a lot to solve the problems of MAX1 and to make the product more attractive. There are many software developers in the community who also do software developement for a living (including me).

As the motto says:
gamesas
By Gamers for Gamers

right?
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:55 pm

Yes Mr. klei.

and the hobby developer can better sleep if the graphics...etc. are free. :)
and gamesas can say. "our Product are lengdary"
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:27 pm



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Post » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:45 am

okay, i played M.A.X. and M.A.X. 2 when i was six, and i thought both walked on water. Starcraft was good, but i only started playing that when my M.A.X. discs got so scratched up that i couldnt play them. fast-forward twelve years, and here i sit. anyone know where i can buy a copy of both games?
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:53 am

my very very first game i ever played on a pc was M.A.X 2 i bought it on a sunday market stall for £1 :mrgreen: anyway i was young with an old "found" windows 95 computer and i loved the game. just loved it i never knew of the problems it had since i had internet and bothered to look for a patch around 5 years later. the one thing i loved was the water platforms.... run outta land? MAKE YOUR OWN!... it was great how you could just kill the computer even on god rank just thanks to a lil water plat. i never played max 1 and i intend to buy it now since there is a link on this topic.

the only bug i know of is the Ghost Constructor witch apeared between 4 blocks randomly
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:57 am



Both of them are available from Good Old Games:

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/m_a_x_m_a_x_2

DRM free, patched to the most recent versions and runs on Win XP/Vista.

pax,
-Chris
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Post » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:17 pm

I have both MAX (requires DoS/Win95) and MAX2 (requires win98).
I am currently running xp so I am unable to play either. Altho after much tweaking I can install them. If there is a patch for win xp is it possible to get a link in this thread as I'm sure there are many others like myself that would love to play these games again.
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