Passable characters. : Othor Games

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:32 am

So, the search gives nothing about this aspect. What do you think, should be characters passable (you can run through another character like in WoW, PW, AO, LoTRO, etc.) or impassable (you can't run through another character like in UO, AoC, WHO, LA2, D&DO, etc.)? Excuse my bad English... I am a Russian bear, it's hard to type with claws.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:14 pm

It depends, I would actually like to have unpassable characters. Usually you have passable to make combat smooth and so people wont get stuck in crowds, but since this is a wasteland I don't think there will be gigantic crowds (mostly thinking of bazaars) like in many other games. They should however be pushable

so no one can block on purpose.

I think it would add a lot to the general feeling of the game, don't like it when people are clipping through each other.

» Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:52 am

It's called "clipping." It generally doesn't work in an MMO for one reason: blocking.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:32 pm

More recently, final fantasy tried a slight stop each time you ran through another player but made it so you can still go through.

If they ever tried to do a unpassable block they would kinda have to change how a lot of things work such as the "Main Town" concept you see in most mmo's as well as quest hubbing. (for starters if they really wanted to do that they would have to do plenty of other things.)

But most likely I cant see them doing that.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:24 pm

Clipping has always annoyed me in most games and if at all possible in an online game id prefer it didn't happen, perhaps a mechanic in the style of Assassins Creed, where with a push of a button your character does an animation of gently shoving someone out of the way.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:37 pm

Collision detection of this sort can be good for combat (and PvP) but can be bad when in a peaceful area and folk block access to doors and such. Hopefully its implementation is on an 'as needed' basis.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:38 pm

It is called "collisions". "Clipping" is a graphical terminology, it means a calculations for viewport borders determination.
Sorry for ugly phrase, it's hard to explain such a complex notion with my level of English. Excuse my bad English... I am a Russian bear, it's hard to type with claws.

» Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:58 am

English seems fine

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:05 pm

I don't want people to block...but i don't wanna go through them either...

I Wanna push 'em outta the way! :mrgreen:

» Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:46 am

+1

assassins creed push anyone? >_>

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:34 pm

+1

assassins creed push anyone? >_>

I guess, but some people don't want too "Gently push" Some might wanna shove :lol:

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:53 am

Easy

just make so that if you hold in shift while walking you make a gentle push, hold in... iunno.. another button you make a hard shove ^^ but perhaps you might draw attention to you >_>

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:14 pm

Easy

just make so that if you hold in shift while walking you make a gentle push, hold in... iunno.. another button you make a hard shove ^^ but perhaps you might draw attention to you >_>

Go! Shove action! *Alarm goes off* Shoo :/

But yeah, shove seems the most realistic/cool choice.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:26 am

WAR has a really good way to deal with it. In combat, characters are solid, but outside of combat you can pass right through them.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:17 pm

Agreed. I think blocking adds enjoyable realism so long as the collisions physics are in line with character models (e.g. No game engine preventing movement through a visible/graphical gap.)

I think "blocking" sounds great. Crowds aren't easy to move through, and inadvertedly blocking people's access should get a stern reaction you'd expect in a largely lawless wasteland. Why do games studios have to fight and die? War, war never changes : (

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:16 pm

Characters should be solid all the time as combat should be potentially imminent at all times.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:32 pm

they already said combat was going to be consentual.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:34 pm

Hopefully by that they mean "You are new leaving a newbieville/protected town. Beware the big bad wasteland. Dun dun dah Why do games studios have to fight and die? War, war never changes : (

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:09 pm

Make it so that if you are in combat you are impassable while out of combat you are passable. that would solve most issues.

» Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:48 pm

they already said combat was going to be consentual.

Sorry if this is a noobish question, but what do you mean? :oops: